pat Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 @'Nator that's pretty interesting because she's more of a tea drinker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 11 hours ago, abenjami said: Was it because of ingredients in the coffee itself or materials used in the cups, etc.? And why would it be BS? If Starbucks or anyone else wants to do business and make money in a state, they have to follow that state's laws. That's a pretty straightforward legal concept. California claims that the process of roasting coffee beans results in high levels of acrylamide and makes coffee highly carcinogenic. So they sued because Starbucks doesn't have a label on their coffee saying their coffee causes cancer. Its bullshit because Coffee doesn't cause cancer and no company should be forced to say their product causes cancer when it doesn't. Coffee is recommended in most diet plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, GOAT9 said: California claims that the process of roasting coffee beans results in high levels of acrylamide and makes coffee highly carcinogenic. So they sued because Starbucks doesn't have a label on their coffee saying their coffee causes cancer. Its bullshit because Coffee doesn't cause cancer and no company should be forced to say their product causes cancer when it doesn't. Coffee is recommended in most diet plans. I saw this warning in a Starbucks in Venice Beach, CA which made me curious, so I researched it a bit. It's horseshit. Here's a good write up about it https://newfoodeconomy.org/coffee-acrylamide-california-proposition-65/ Edited September 26, 2019 by 'Nator GOAT9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 hours ago, GOAT9 said: California claims that the process of roasting coffee beans results in high levels of acrylamide and makes coffee highly carcinogenic. So they sued because Starbucks doesn't have a label on their coffee saying their coffee causes cancer. Its bullshit because Coffee doesn't cause cancer and no company should be forced to say their product causes cancer when it doesn't. Coffee is recommended in most diet plans. Where did you see that California sued because there was no label saying coffee causes cancer? I have lived in California my entire life and I don't think I have ever seen a label or warning sign that says a product causes cancer. I do see warnings every day that say a product contains something that has been linked to cause cancer, etc. but that's very different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 10 hours ago, 'Nator said: I saw this warning in a Starbucks in Venice Beach, CA which made me curious, so I researched it a bit. It's horseshit. Here's a good write up about it https://newfoodeconomy.org/coffee-acrylamide-california-proposition-65/ Yeah. I mean its not horseshit to make cancer warnings if it causes cancer but people could use some damned common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, abenjami said: Where did you see that California sued because there was no label saying coffee causes cancer? I have lived in California my entire life and I don't think I have ever seen a label or warning sign that says a product causes cancer. I do see warnings every day that say a product contains something that has been linked to cause cancer, etc. but that's very different. The actual text(s) of Prop65 warnings: Quote WARNING: This product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer. WARNING: This product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. http://www.klgates.com/warning-proposition-65-warning-requirements-have-changed-01-04-2017/ So yes, they do say they are "known to cause cancer." And some of them are just fucking ridiculous. But, it IS Kalifornia after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, abenjami said: Where did you see that California sued because there was no label saying coffee causes cancer? I have lived in California my entire life and I don't think I have ever seen a label or warning sign that says a product causes cancer. I do see warnings every day that say a product contains something that has been linked to cause cancer, etc. but that's very different. The difference is common sense. But you just said you have lived in Cali your entire life so its okay. Nobody expects you to have any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said: The actual text(s) of Prop65 warnings: http://www.klgates.com/warning-proposition-65-warning-requirements-have-changed-01-04-2017/ So yes, they do say they are "known to cause cancer." And some of them are just fucking ridiculous. But, it IS Kalifornia after all. I totally agree the prop 65 warnings can be ridiculous. Some of them make sense (i.e. gas stations) but this Starbucks one is a good example of a ridiculous one. All i'm saying is there's a difference between "this product causes cancer" and "this product contains an ingredient known to cause cancer". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 hours ago, GOAT9 said: The difference is common sense. But you just said you have lived in Cali your entire life so its okay. Nobody expects you to have any of that. So says the guy who throws a fit when Starbucks gets sued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, abenjami said: So says the guy who throws a fit when Starbucks gets sued. Yes, its upsetting that time, resources, and court costs are being wasted on horseshit when it could be used to actually accomplish something. But its California and everything there is just a giant waste so who cares. TitanDuckFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 This is the sign I saw in the Starbucks in Venice Beach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, GOAT9 said: Yes, its upsetting that time, resources, and court costs are being wasted on horseshit when it could be used to actually accomplish something. But its California and everything there is just a giant waste so who cares. You obviously care quite a bit. Those of us who live in California pretty much ignore the prop 65 warnings, they're everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, 'Nator said: This is the sign I saw in the Starbucks in Venice Beach That's just dumb and not necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, abenjami said: You obviously care quite a bit. Those of us who live in California pretty much ignore the prop 65 warnings, they're everywhere. That's just you admitting that theyre a giant waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, GOAT9 said: That's just dumb and not necessary. It's dumb. By this standard, this warning needs to go on 75% of all consumer food and beverage products. GOAT9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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