OzTitan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: Wjere is that exactly? And he also says that this is the beginning of a process. Why jump out the gate and possibly ruin any attempts at long lasting piece over something that is already done and quite frankly, did nothing. Yall are more upset about the idea of it than what actually happened. Yall want him to get into a war of words with a potentially dangerous person over sometjing tjat is all but over. It makes zero sense for jim to come out and go straight attack mode. Of course, CNN and company would have loved that as well because they could start the whole "hes going to get us into war" BS again.... Sleep on it. You have a point, somewhat - I don't think Trump has the nuance to criticize and apply language strongly without it coming off as a full blown attack. Everyone else to date, being allies with a lone exception, have just brushed it off and chalked it up to Trump being Trump, and not taking too much offense or taking it too literally. But perhaps that wouldn't be wise with Putin. I guess what people were wanting to see was some words that, I dunno, presented the US as a strong nation not willing to be dicked around by Russia. A nation that can do what it wants and doesn't accept some pesky midrange Eastern European country with an effective dictatorship can do the same back. We don't know what was said in private, but the public message matters, too (certainly to a man like Putin), especially when it directly contradicts your own country's top officials and agencies. But that was clearly expecting too much from Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ben4titans said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 If he's not a compromised traitor(he is)then he's the biggest nutless pussy to ever fill the oval office Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: There is a time and place to pick your battles. And a cautionary way as to why battles to pick. I agree with the first bolded... As far as the second bolded.... Didn't he take that approach with NK? Amd how did the left react? They were expecting (or maube just hoping that Trump) started war. You dont think Putin was paying close attention to those dealings? I gaurentee Putin doesn't believe America and or Trump is weak or can be dicked around. Again, time and place. If we have indictments on Russians, what more can Trump do? Wouldn't anything else just be more of a risk to escalating sometjing we are truing to get behind us? He is supposed to potentially escalate a situation that is closer to being over than just starting to appease ppl who are never going to accept him anyway? I believe Trump is trying to stay middle ground. And what I quoted earlier mentions nothing more than simply not wanting to rush into any judgement just because some think he should. I don't see him taking the middle ground, I see him siding strongly with Russia on it, in the face of his own country, for his personal reasons. He was not the US President up there saying that, he was Donald Trump - a guy struggling with the idea his campaign was helped by an enemy nation. I can see why you would want to see that was him taking the middle ground, but I don't think that's what actually happened. Unless by middle ground you mean side with Russia to their face, but then go back to language suggesting they did it (like blaming Obama for it) when he's back home on Twitter. If he can't use language to suggest the US know what happened, don't like it, will seek to stop it by any means, in front of the guy who did it, without it resulting in an international incident, then perhaps he truly isn't suited for this job. Hope and pray for the US this wasn't what played out in private. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokes Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: If he's not a compromised traitor(he is)then he's the biggest nutless pussy to ever fill the oval office He's a limp wristed pussy, Putin would stretch and humble his as in seconds and Trump knows it. Unbelievable that a 70 year old man that only filled out one job application in his life got his first job and it turned out to be the fucking President. If only his mother would have just swallowed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, JakePA_Titan said: You said that already and I asked which part of the article you got that from. Still havent shown what words led you to believing that.... Or is it just because that is what the MSM are telling you? This is what I saw as he said these things - a man refusing to represent what his country knows and believes happened, because it doesn't suit him personally. Outside of the President apparently, the US doesn't believe that Russia did not target the US elections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokes Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: See how they go from 0 to 100 (0 to personal) real quick. Lmao Thats all the left knows how to do. Make it personal because they have no intelligent political defense. All opinionated bull. Not personal, just obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Smokes said: Not personal, just obvious. Hey FistShaker, what’s obvious is where you’re at on the what kind of tard you are list. Do you or don’t you know where you’re at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, OzTitan said: I don't see him taking the middle ground, I see him siding strongly with Russia on it, in the face of his own country, for his personal reasons. He was not the US President up there saying that, he was Donald Trump - a guy struggling with the idea his campaign was helped by an enemy nation. I can see why you would want to see that was him taking the middle ground, but I don't think that's what actually happened. Unless by middle ground you mean side with Russia to their face, but then go back to language suggesting they did it (like blaming Obama for it) when he's back home on Twitter. If he can't use language to suggest the US know what happened, don't like it, will seek to stop it by any means, in front of the guy who did it, without it resulting in an international incident, then perhaps he truly isn't suited for this job. Hope and pray for the US this wasn't what played out in private. That, or he's been obsessed with the legitimacy of his election because he's a guilty fucking traitor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, patsplat said: That, or he's been obsessed with the legitimacy of his election because he's a guilty fucking traitor. Hey FistShaker, did you at least think about whether you honestly know that the homers know you’re the General and bat shit crazy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokes Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: Haha right Dudes a spineless internet troll, has been for years. Shits just obvious. Wasn't mad or shocked that he won, problem is as long is there is no there there why so sensitive? Why not let the process run it's course? Why belittle the media and every agency of law enforcement? Why isn't he doing his job in regards to a foreign threat? Why not ask for the extradition of the Russians that have been indicted, do it in public show some sack. WW3 isn't going to break out over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, ManningEnvy said: Hey FistShaker, did you at least think about whether you honestly know that the homers know you’re the General and bat shit crazy? Stick to the Molson Ice bud head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, patsplat said: Stick to the Molson Ice bud head Hey FistShaker, my ole lady is an expert on your types. She told me that she would bet anything that The Tard Army has the same password for every soilder. There’s a academic term they use for it. Can you guess what it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: I get that.....been got that.... And again, Im asking what specific words/sentences/paragraphs brought you to that conclusion.... In response to whether he believes the USIC or Putin, and would he denounce what Russia did in 2016, he went on a rant about the DNC, the whereabouts of the server - the importance of which is insignificant from a technical perspective - and said Putin strongly denies any actions from Russia - so the answer was, I believe Putin over the USIC, and no I won't denounce it. I believe that's because it's in his personal best interests to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 It's a known fact that Russia interfered in the election. Putin opened the conference by saying the following: "Once again, President Trump mentioned the issue of the so-called interference of Russia with the American elections, and I had to reiterate things I said several times, including during our personal contacts, that the Russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal American affairs, including election process." Trump not only didn't address this, he willfully participated in discrediting U.S. intelligence, by saying the same stupid nonsense you might about Democrats, by saying that Putin's defense was strong. Go back and read his tweet where he was critical of America. Go read any independent analysis. This conference was a siding with Putin over US intelligence, which is non-partisan. Everyone from Trey Gowdy to Paul Ryan to John McCain. The best case scenario here is that Trump gave the weakest performance a US President has ever given in US history. The idea that the President is not representing and supporting our intelligence agencies, and openly dismissed with a throwaway comment should be alarming. In fact, it's alarming to pretty much everyone who has indulged in paying attention to it, even Fox News. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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