Justafan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Like I said, he likely makes the team as the #5 WR. He'll get his one last shot but it'll be an uphill battle. Most likely, he plays out his last year and moves on in free agency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, Justafan said: Like I said, he likely makes the team as the #5 WR. He'll get his one last shot but it'll be an uphill battle. Most likely, he plays out his last year and moves on in free agency. Assuming he makes this year's roster. Anything we get from Hunter is gravy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Assuming he makes this year's roster. Anything we get from Hunter is gravy They aren't married to Tre McBride and he didn't show much last year imo. I think Wright, DGB, Mathews are all locks to make it. Douglas probably makes it, as right now he's listed as the #1 and he has a lot of familiarity with these coaches and this offense. He's too valuable to cut and so if nothing else he'll make it as the #4. I assume Sharp makes the team simply because he's a first year guy and they seem to be high on him. That means it all comes down to Hunter or McBride for the final spot. I think Hunter makes it as he's proven capable of some big plays and is serviceable as a rotational player. McBride has limited upside and didn't seem to impress anyone so unless he comes on strong at training camp I think he'll be the odd man out. Of course that's all pure speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: So, what you are saying is that you can't name one. Gotcha. Are you his mother or something? DGB is capable of those long plays. There is no way to defend him and his lack of production. If you want Hunter and his awesome gift he has at receiver, please don't follow the team I root for. Dude is trash and there is absolutely no defense about him taking snaps over someone who is capable of more than 2 catches a game. I'll flip a question on you, which receivers on this team would you rank above Hunter overall, not just ability to be a deep threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Titans WRs are proof of the quote "sometimes when you got a lotta guys at a position it means you have no one at the position" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 hours ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: We don;t have one WR who can stretch a defense or take the top off of it, with the exception of Hunter. No, DGB can not do the things that Hunter does with the ball in space. We have underneath/possession WRs. We need a WR who can stretch a defense. Until we land one, Hunter is going to be that guy. It is obvious that you do not understand the functions of certain skill sets, how they are used, and how they change how a defense defends an offense. No I get it. There are no long term plans for a guy with a skillset of speed and not much else. As I said earlier in this, speed is a dime a dozen... Speed and skills are not, Hunter doesn't have skills. He is easily replaceable. Back to my question, where would you put Hunter on the WR depth chart? I have him at 4 and the only WR he is better than currently is a 5th round pick since Douglas will be cut. I'd rather have a guy who can run a full route tree and actually catch compared to only being able to "stretch the defense". You can stretch the defense without track speed, may not be the CJ2k threat to actually take it to the house but don't fucking tell me every team has a all-country speed track star that can actually catch too. If you are going to be condescending at least give me a reason why Hunter is such a talent besides running track in school. What does he do so well that a 4.5-4.6 guy can't do in terms of draw attention to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 And gtfo with the "things he can do with the ball in space", he averages 2 catches a game with 8 career TDs. That is far from some game breaker, of course he has his highlight plays but pretty much every single player in the NFL does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I like Hunter. I hope the light bulb turns on and he kills it. I doubt it happens and it's tough to defend his lack of production thus far but I hope the best for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 ....But he takes the top off the defense, it's not tough to defend that stance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just now, TennesseeTuxedo said: Depth chart is irrelevant. Situations and packages are what matter to an offense. I get that and agree, but not when it is only based on running pretty much straight to scare defenses into keeping an eye on him. Anyone can run straight and that 4.4 speed isn't gamebreaking when you compare it to a 4.55 or 4.6. If you can get a 4.6 guy who can consistently run a full route tree, that "taking the top off the defense" isn't as important of a one trick pony unless you are some stud at tracking/catching or have some 4.2 speed where you will need safety help essentially 100% of the time. Either way, I don't think Hunter is someone we should force onto the field because he is our only true deep threat when every team in the NFL has someone with his speed and jumping ability doesn't mean anything to me since he is terribly uncoordinated and bad anticipation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 To each their own, you think Hunter is a game changer (whether he directly or indirectly shows up on the stat sheet) and I think he is just another athletic schmoe ala Zach Brown. Neither of us are going to budge but to come off as you are obviously right and condescending is a bit funny for a guy who is on the bubble of playing time. I don't think we cut him because there is no need but I wouldn't be shocked if he is #5 on the depth chart in terms of playing time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 On 5/8/2016 at 11:55 AM, hazzed said: Rookie Recievers are more and more productive every year. DGB produced when given the chance he was about as much as a "project" as you can be. DGB and Mathews on the outside Wright in the slot Ta'jae Sharpe works his way up as the 4th WR. Hunter and Douglas 5 and 6 Sharpe will outperform Hunter in TC. Sharpe is supposed to be a very intelligent football player that has good speed/size and runs good routes. He also has very good hands. Even as a 5th rounder I think he is a pro ready prospect who could atleast provide depth and produce when his numbers called. This is the last year for both Hunter and Douglas! The main thing Sharpe has going for him is he will probably get a lot of playing time on special teams even if he doesn't get many reps in as a receiver. Hunter isn't a special teams player so the only thing he has going for him are his WR abilities. If McBride gets something going too then both Hunter and Douglas could be on the way out. I assume McBride also plays special teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said: McBride 's time in the NFL is short. No speed or operation abilities. Wasn't his knock on him that he couldn't get separation? This was in a lesser conference in college too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Hunter has value in the offense. He'll never be a stud x receiver but that doesn't mean he's worthless. He's a 300-700 yards a season guy who will play in packages. He's going to get far less snaps this season though with the addition of Mathews, an improving DGB, and a healthy Wright. He needs to bring more than being a long strider WR and a limited package guy if he expects to have a long term future here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 On 5/12/2016 at 7:35 PM, Justafan said: Hunter has value in the offense. He'll never be a stud x receiver but that doesn't mean he's worthless. He's a 300-700 yards a season guy who will play in packages. He's going to get far less snaps this season though with the addition of Mathews, an improving DGB, and a healthy Wright. He needs to bring more than being a long strider WR and a limited package guy if he expects to have a long term future here. Nailed it. He was pretty damn good as a rookie in that limited role but he hasn't yet taken the necessary steps to be considered a reliable, every down guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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