Face Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Tough to judge Cousins this year. The team had clearly mailed it in, Shanny was fighting with Snyder, Shanny was fighting with RG3, etc. The team pretty clearly mailed it in. His rookie year he looked very good. Also, some people have mentioned Schaub, in a negative way. If I knew Cousins would be Schaub I'd trade my 2 in a millisecond, probably even my 1. Take a look at the guys stats, he had phenomenal years, 6 of them I believe. 6 years of mid 90's rating quarterbacking? Where do I sign? We all like to beat up on the guy but the reality is QBs don't grow on trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Still not sure how you can equate two different players. yeah, it sucks when you use past experience and knowledge to try and help make decisions. Doesn't mean Cousins is sure to fail by any means. But the hype machine is in overdrive on him just as it was w/ Kolb. Very similar situations. It's also similar to Schaub and he did alright. It's also similar to Flynn and how'd he do? But since Wiz has tried that route recently, I'd be very surprised if he was quick to do it again. Right or wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Agree with Sox on this one. The only thing that any team should base this decision on is Cousin's game tape. Kevin Kolb not working out doesn't mean anything. Matt Schaub did work out, Rob Johnson didn't. And our own Matt Hasselbeck worked out pretty good for Seattle. Some were right, some were wrong. I'm not saying to do it or not, but if Whiz really does like what he sees from Cousins, I hope he's not gun shy because of Kolb failing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Is the thinking Cousins has more upside with Whiz than Fitz? I am think everybody in favor of bringing him in feels Whiz can get more out of him than Shanny. Given Whiz will get more out of Fitz as well, is the thinking Cousins could be special in the Whiz's offense? Or is he just a cheaper backup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 yeah, it sucks when you use past experience and knowledge to try and help make decisions. Doesn't mean Cousins is sure to fail by any means. But the hype machine is in overdrive on him just as it was w/ Kolb. Very similar situations. It's also similar to Schaub and he did alright. It's also similar to Flynn and how'd he do? But since Wiz has tried that route recently, I'd be very surprised if he was quick to do it again. Right or wrong. Please stop. You are smarter than this. You can't seriously be using a sample size of ONE in order to make what you think is a GOOD inductive generatlization. Seriously? That's like the definition of hasty generalization. It doesn't get any hastier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now I have no idea how Wiz feels about Cousins but if he sees something in the guy that warrants making the deal obviously he should and as noted, Kolb has nothing to do with the decision.I agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ugh this guy again? We just watched a team win the Super Bowl with a strong defense, tough in-between-the-tackles run game and a third round QB who plays smart and takes care of the football. I'd rather look to the draft than give the skins a second round pick. I live in the DC area and seriously don't want to be the brunt of DC media and skins fans mockery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Please stop. You are smarter than this. You can't seriously be using a sample size of ONE in order to make what you think is a GOOD inductive generatlization. Seriously? That's like the definition of hasty generalization. It doesn't get any hastier. How about you stop exaggerating what I'm saying. I'm saying the hype for Cousins is out of hand just like it was w/ Kolb. I'm not saying Kolb failed so Cousins will fail. I don't like Cousins b/c I don't think he's that good, not b/c of Kolb but to say the situations aren't similar and there's no correlation is foolish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 The beginning of the the NFL off-season...where average at best back up QBs are over hyped to make some sucker over pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLocker10 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Cousins first start against CLE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Actually you made a point that Wiz won't make that mistake again as if this has anything to do with Kolb. Oman pointed out the difference in money is huge. The most we are out if Cousins bombs is a 2nd round pick. I'm no sure Cousins is that good either. But that is for Wiz to decide. On that note I gave the example of Foles who was a similar guy but broke out. We are talking about a guy with 4 NFL starts. I insinuated that there were some similarities in the situations, yeah. Oman said there weren't so I pointed them out. And then he back tracked and said money was the only thing that mattered. The part about Wiz probably not going that route again after being burned was a side note. Right or wrong (I think I even said that part), he probably won't do it again b/c of that recent history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I insinuated that there were some similarities in the situations, yeah. Oman said there weren't so I pointed them out. No I didn't, aside from the money. I said it was also like the Favre trade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 COUSINS SUCKS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I personally think Locker has more of a chance developing into a long term QB assuming he's healthy. I'd still trade for guys like Cousins for a 2nd rounder(alleged value) and take a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 If you want to use the logic that most of the time these trades don't pan out Was I making that argument? Nope. I was tempering the enthusiasm for a very over hyped player by showing a very recent case where it ended very badly. On top of that the example I gave was w/ Wiz which, right or wrong, makes a trade for Cousins even more unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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