CMJ Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 ManningEnvy is OILERMAN who has multiple accounts all of which can never be banned due to his moderator status and longtime board standing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 By the way, VY was better than Locker at every level. HS, college and pro. Until I see Locker string together enough wins to get us a playoff win, and make miracles happen in the process, I'll be right and there's nothing anyone can say to factually prove me wrong. VY won us enough games to get us to the playoffs IN HIS WORST season. Locker's ass is on the damn clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 What I am attacking is this statement of yours: "And we still don't know (nor will we EVER know) how good VY could have been." You talk about his time with the Titans and blame Fisher. But you ignore his 2 other chances to prove how good he was. The two other chances he's had are pretty strong proof that his time with the Titans wasn't an outlier. So we do know, contrary to your statement, how good he could have been and its not very impressive. How many more chances does he need? I don't see what his time in Philly, Buffalo or Green Bay has to do with what he did in Nashville. Every situation is different. Different coach, different OC, different personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 VY has only played for 4 teams now and had 5 different OCs. Until he plays under every offensive system we just won't know how good he is. He carried a team on his back to 10 wins only throwing 9 TDs over the course of 16 games. Imagine if he doubled that number and got it up to a mediocre 18 TDs! Good point! We all know that TD passes equal wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 By the way, VY was better than Locker at every level. HS, college and pro. Until I see Locker string together enough wins to get us a playoff win, and make miracles happen in the process, I'll be right and there's nothing anyone can say to factually prove me wrong. VY won us enough games to get us to the playoffs IN HIS WORST season. Locker's ass is on the damn clock. Damn you're retarded. Did you even look at the defenses the two QBs played on? VY had AH and a top defense, while Locker's D gave up the most points in franchise history. Hell, even your dumb-ass could have QB'd the Titans to the playoffs with that D. All that being said, the VY vs. Fisher debate isn't good vs. bad....it's horrible vs. atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I don't see what his time in Philly, Buffalo or Green Bay has to do with what he did in Nashville. Every situation is different. Different coach, different OC, different personnel. It has to do with a complete evaluation of VY and 'how good he can be.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Vince Young SUCKS.. anyone that thinks different will find out again how wrong they are when he stinks up this preseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Vince Young SUCKS.. anyone that thinks different will find out again how wrong they are when he stinks up this preseason. Just saying VY sucks isn't even enough He actually landed in a dream spot with the Titans under Jeff Fisher. The owner worshiped him, he was under a head coach and OC that was able to work around him in such a way the team could win a lot of games even though he sucked. I laugh every time some retard starts spouting off the record with VY. The funny thing is VY was literally about half a season away from possibly getting a new contract with the Titans when he went full retard in the Miami game. He was going into his final year and had he held it together the rest of the season he likely gets paid or is in position to get a new deal. At that point Bud would have probably done anything for him. Bud was so proud of his hand picked draft pick he wanted to prove everyone what a good draft pick he made. But alas, VY was simply too stupid to have any kind of forward thinking. He has the melt down and even Bud could be talked into getting rid of the moron after that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Damn you're retarded. Did you even look at the defenses the two QBs played on? VY had AH and a top defense, while Locker's D gave up the most points in franchise history. Hell, even your dumb-ass could have QB'd the Titans to the playoffs with that D. All that being said, the VY vs. Fisher debate isn't good vs. bad....it's horrible vs. atrocious. VY took us to 8-2 down the stretch in 2009 without AH. Shut the fuck up with that bubble gum bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 VY took us to 8-2 down the stretch in 2009 without AH. Shut the fuck up with that bubble gum bullshit They played two decent teams in that stretch and VY was horrible in both games. The SD game was as bad as a QB can play. Collins played most of the Rams game and that was their biggest blowout win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 They played two decent teams in that stretch and VY was horrible in both games. The SD game was as bad as a QB can play. Collins played most of the Rams game and that was their biggest blowout win. It's any given Sunday in the NFL son. There's no such thing as playing "only 2 decent teams" in a 10 game stretch. If Locker did half as much as VY did, he'd have a key to the city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 VY took us to 8-2 down the stretch in 2009 without AH. Shut the fuck up with that bubble gum bullshit Please tell me that is sarcasm.. No one is that dumb.. well maybe Vince Young but no one else.. EDIT: I stand corrected there are people stupid enough to defend the moron.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Vince Young is on his way to Canada if you follow his career path since high school: In high school played in Houston Then he went north to Austin for college Then he went north to Nashville Then he went north to Philadelphia Then he went north to Buffalo Then he went north to Green Bay So, if he continues the trend of going north, he'll either next play for the VIkings, Seahawks or in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Oilerman, quit it with the Collins played most of the game crap against St. Louis. The Titans were already up comfortably when Young left (it was at least 14-0 if not more), St. Louis was the worst team in the league and their QB that day was Keith Null. Collins had nothing to do with the victory (not that Young did either). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Who cares, the rams were pitiful and VY has rarely beat playoff teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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