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OILERMAN Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Trump and his lawyers are getting to see some of the evidence Mueller has because of the Manafort trial. Trump is in panic mode. All of Gates statements to Mueller had to be given to Manafort's lawyers and they've def given it to Trump's lawyers. There is a reason Rudy recently said Trump won't answer questions about obstruction. They now know Mueller has a memo and also has backed up corroboration showing that Trump tried to obstruct justice over Flynn. If the Dems win the house they will have something way more valuable than the ability to impeach, subpoena power. It's getting pretty clear, Trump is in a world of shit and he knows it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 It’s a strange feeling to see how fucked up trump and his followers truly are and find myself wishing we could actually Make America Great Again. Hell, i’d settle for George W. Bush at this point. Trump supporters are trying to turn America into a joke because a hack celebrity tells them so. Patriotism is dying a death on the right and the diagnosis is Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 This also confirms Corallo’s get-the-hell-out-of-Dodge resignation directly after Trump handcrafted the adoption cover story. Corallo knew very well that with the Mueller investigation ongoing, the actions of Trump and Hope Hicks was likely considered obstruction of justice and wanted no part of it. Trumpers believed every wisp of smoke around Hillary (real or faked), yet here is the president of the United States continuously lying to the public and taking numerous actions to impede a proper and thorough federal investigation, but they want to deny everything and turn this into a DEM thing. So full of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: If the Dems win the house they will have something way more valuable than the ability to impeach, subpoena power. Exactly. Removal by impeachment is such a Longshot. There's a reason why it has never happened. Who the hell knows where that goes if the house votes to impeach. But yes in terms of actually finding out what the fuck happened dems winning back the house is critical. Then they will head the committees and they will be the decision makers on subpoenas and hearings. Everything about the investigation changes is dems win the house. I'm not counting on removing trump and you are a fool if you are. But the dems will have alot of power to get to the bottom of this if they win the house. At least we will be in a position to learn the facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: There's a reason why it has never happened. I'm not counting on removing trump and you are a fool if you are. But the dems will have alot of power to get to the bottom of this if they win the house. At least we will be in a position to learn the facts. A few points. We've never had such a criminal in office who is a clear traitor committing treason against the US. If congress was functioning properly he'd def get impeached. I agree he may not though. Something I've been wondering about and possibly hoping for more is the idea of him getting indicted after his term is up. I wasn't sure if this was possible and over the last few days I've heard it reported it's def possible. If this thing drags out and he loses re-election and then he's charged I think he's fucked. Republicans hate him but defend him because of the support of his base. Once that is gone he's unlikely to get a pardon or cover. He could seriously lose his wealth and be jailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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begooode Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Not only Trump, but I think Nunes would be investigated if the Dems won the House. Not a retribution / political thing, but a review of if he committed crimes or ethics violations while chairman of the house intel committee similary, with oversight from congress I think Steven Miller would also be asked to testify wtf was going on with the WH immigration policy making as it appears real harm has been done to families who were lawfully seeking asylum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 minute ago, begooode said: Not only Trump, but I think Nunes would be investigated if the Dems won the House. Not a retribution / political thing, but a review of if he committed crimes or ethics violations while chairman of the house intel committee similary, with oversight from congress I think Steven Miller would also be asked to testify wtf was going on with the WH immigration policy making as it appears real harm has been done to families who were lawfully seeking asylum. It opens the door for all types of possibilities I heard yesterday that when Nixon won re-election he was crushed because Republicans didn't win the house and said the Dems had subpoena power, he knew he was a goner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 It's the same thing that's happening with collusion in general. It didn't happen! It didn't happen! Wait... it did happen. Well collusion isn't illegal (conspiracy is) Tower meeting wasn't about Hillary! It wasn't about Hillary! Wait... it was. Well it wasn't illegal anyway (it was). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Downtown said: It’s a strange feeling to see how fucked up trump and his followers truly are and find myself wishing we could actually Make America Great Again. Hell, i’d settle for George W. Bush at this point. Trump supporters are trying to turn America into a joke because a hack celebrity tells them so. Patriotism is dying a death on the right and the diagnosis is Trump. Hell, I'll settle for Pence at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Trump and his lawyers are getting to see some of the evidence Mueller has because of the Manafort trial. Trump is in panic mode. All of Gates statements to Mueller had to be given to Manafort's lawyers and they've def given it to Trump's lawyers. There is a reason Rudy recently said Trump won't answer questions about obstruction. They now know Mueller has a memo and also has backed up corroboration showing that Trump tried to obstruct justice over Flynn. If the Dems win the house they will have something way more valuable than the ability to impeach, subpoena power. It's getting pretty clear, Trump is in a world of shit and he knows it Do all of Gates statements get turned over or just those dealing with the case at hand? Might be why they're going after him for money laundering first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, reo said: Do all of Gates statements get turned over or just those dealing with the case at hand? The lawyers I listened to said they get it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, reo said: Hell, I'll settle for Pence at this point. Anyone close to the Trump taint (figuratively and literally) needs to gtfo, and with Pence his nose is so far up Trumps ass that he wouldn’t know what fresh air smells like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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