TitanDuckFan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Simple. No need for secret societies, shadow governments, or convoluted dot-connecting. Just simple truth that anyone with eyes and ears can confirm for themselves. Lies are complicated, the truth is simple. Yes lies are complicated. Wray looked at the memo and shitcanned McCabe. Do you think that was by accident? Coincidental? Just bad timing? Oh hell no it wasn't. It was as simple as it gets. McCabe tainted the FBI's reputation for impartiality and propriety, and someone (Nunes) has the goods. The "simple" truth is, hillary ran for president while she should have been in a courtroom with a platoon of lawyers trying to defend her illegal actions. People like Andy McCabe and his underlings, and cronies at the DOJ, protected her. If the memo reveals what I believe it will, there was considerable spying on the Trump campaign that bordered on illegal wiretaps, and illegal/unwarranted unmasking, and then leaks about them to the media were engineered by people at the FBI and DOJ. All in their efforts to discredit the Trump campaign. And all based on Russian propaganda bought and paid for by the hillary campaign and the DNC, through their lawyers and Fusion. That's all the "collusion" anyone should need to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Yes lies are complicated. Wray looked at the memo and shitcanned McCabe. Do you think that was by accident? Coincidental? Just bad timing? Oh hell no it wasn't. It was as simple as it gets. McCabe tainted the FBI's reputation for impartiality and propriety, and someone (Nunes) has the goods. The "simple" truth is, hillary ran for president while she should have been in a courtroom with a platoon of lawyers trying to defend her illegal actions. People like Andy McCabe and his underlings, and cronies at the DOJ, protected her. If the memo reveals what I believe it will, there was considerable spying on the Trump campaign that bordered on illegal wiretaps, and illegal/unwarranted unmasking, and then leaks about them to the media were engineered by people at the FBI and DOJ. All in their efforts to discredit the Trump campaign. And all based on Russian propaganda bought and paid for by the hillary campaign and the DNC, through their lawyers and Fusion. That's all the "collusion" anyone should need to see. Not sure why I'm wasting my time but.... The belief is that it was part of the DOJ's IG report that led to McCabe's demotion. That report is due out to the public soon. It was not anything in this stupid fucking memo that had anything to do with McCabe leaving. Secondly, both DOJ and FBI have now come out against the memo and for the exact reasons Rep. Schiff have called out...it's factually inaccurate and intentionally misleads by removing context (not to mention it's fucking classified). Also, it's now sounding like this memo was sourced from the White House (the second time Nunes has tried to pull this shit now). The White House is already walking back the idea that it will inevitably be released. I have a feeling there are lawyers on staff that are telling the President this is an absolutely awful idea to release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, ben4titans said: There is zero evidence the Russians hacked the DNC. So, how does every Intel agency know they did? The sooner you start accepting some of this stuff, the easier you'll fall when Mueller's report presents overwhelming evidence of the Russians hacking the DNC, state election data, US government servers, and, ahem, the RNC. If you keep on living in denial, you literally may have a psychiatric breakdown when you understand that everything you've believed about this world and the GOP over these last few years is all demonstrably false. That's going to be a real mind fuck for not just you, but anyone who has stayed sheltered in the bubble. I hope you're ready for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 guilty pleas + ongoing cooperation (including the friggin NSA) 2 strong indictments links to Russians everywhere numerous actions to thwart the pursuit of justice it's all smoke I tells ya!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ben4titans said: Some would say Russians are knee deep in our Democracy. Just drooling over the prospect of overthrowing our Republic. Yeah and they found the perfect tool in your infant-in-chief. He's already paying them back by not enacting the sanctions that were agreed upon in a bi- partisan manner. Looks like the investment paid off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Yeah and they found the perfect tool in your infant-in-chief. He's already paying them back by not enacting the sanctions that were agreed upon in a bi- partisan manner. Looks like the investment paid off. cracks in another foundation...TDS!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, thor said: cracks in another foundation...TDS!!! Crack is what you must be smoking to believe in Trump. Keep inhaling Thor, you've almost fooled yourself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Mythos27 said: Crack is what you must be smoking to believe in Trump. Keep inhaling Thor, you've almost fooled yourself! Keep following the MSM lies --- after all they're about to be exposed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 hours ago, JakePA_Titan said: What conspiracies have I EVER alluded to? Other than the cover up the FBI did for Hillary. And thats not a conspiracy. Thereis actual proof, unlike Trumps treasonous acts yall are manufacturing. And two of the people I mentioned, Im pretty sure had nothing to do with Trump or his situation. Its funny how you bring up the fact "they knew it would look bad". Reminds me of the Email scandal. You know where Hillary actually destroyed evidence and also lied. Yet to you, lying is more of a crime than lying AND destroying evidence. Yall can never escape the hypocrisy, can you? So you are going to claim he is guilty for simply lying, yet defended Hillary who dis that amd then some. Hilarious. You should already know, it doesn't matter what it looks like, matters what you can prove. Ive already stated Im sure he had talks with ppl from Russia, but let me know when there is proof of it being illegal. Honestly, if you really thought Trump thought it was over by firing Comey, you might actually be dumber than he is. But given the fact your net worth will never be equal to his and you will never be POTUS, Im sure that is fair to assume. Lets be honest, Comey was fired for his displayed incompetence. Pubs had a problem with the way the Hillary case was invesitagted. A lot of red flags. Then Dems had a problem with him stating he was "reopening" the case. A lot of ppl took issue with him and questioned his integrity. Hell, Dems even blamed him for Hillarys loss. Now yall want to say he was fired because Trump feared him. Lmao. More hypocrisy ladened BS. First, he hasn't fired Mueller, which he could have done. So everyone you say? And according to BI, only three were fired. http://www.businessinsider.com/who-has-trump-fired-so-far-james-comey-sean-spicer-michael-flynn-2017-7 See, you talk about perception. Well hetes a word of advice. When you try to exaggerate something, it makes you look like you're reaching. Just like when the news networks try hard everyday to make Trump look racist. If something is true, there is no need to push so hard. If its true, it will display itself, eventually. There is no need to try and exaggerate it. Its just a bad look. And if what yall suspect Trump of doing is accurate, why would it matter if the public believed it or not? Wouldn't the DOJ then hold all the carxs to prosecute Trump. So why the fuck would you care if the public believed it or not? You mean like Benghazi? You mean like B Clinton's sex-capades? You mean like Hillarys email scandal? You mean like Stzrok altering a dossier in which private text messages proved, facually? You guys are crying over the "Russia hacls" yet use the Dutch acts as evidence that it happened. How come you're all for hacls to expose Russia but not for hacls that expose the peoppe who actually run our country. Im 27. For years Ive heard older people talk about our government being corrupt. That something needed to be done to change it, stop it. But when we have proof of this, now people are trying to defend them. How ppl can seriously defend Strzok for what he did is fucking mind boggling. All ppl do is complain about corrupt las enforcement and governement officials. But when we have the proof against those that do it, they want to defend them tooth and nail because they want to fall into the "are you republican or democrat, and you have to pick a side" BS. All I want is for ANYONE who is corrupt to be forced out. Idgaf is they are pubs, dems, independents. It dont fucking matter if they're white, black, orange, or if they have a cock or pussy. Why cant we all agree on that? And you want to talk about "anyone with eyes and ears" and still think Strzok doesn't deserve to be fired after what he did and how his personal texts revealed he was giving Hillary "a break". Then talk about secret societies and shit as if that doesnt happen in the DNC and with our intelligence agencies. Give me a fucking break. If we take anything away from this it should be that regardless of what happens to Trump or anyone else, that our country has a long way to go before people in this country can feel comfortable and safe with who is running it. And not talking about one man or person. As long as ppl keep playing sides, nothing will get better. You give me proof of ANYONE doing wrong and I will call for sanctions to be made. There was proof Hillary fucked up and that bad things hapoened as a result of her fuck up. Yall defended her like she was your daughter. But now, you want to decapitate Trump based on assumption driven allegations. Simply because you don't like the man when you probably didn't feel the same about him 5 years ago. Its a fucking joke. I've never seen someone type this many words to say absolutely nothing. This post is a microcosm of the hysteria sweeping the right wing. Jake, you are a hyper-partisan, hyper-right wing nutjob who sides with the GOP and Trump on everything yet you still have the gall to post a dissertation on "not playing sides". You support the MOST corrupt president to ever hold office and you have the gall to talk about corruption. You routinely engage in hyping up whichever conspiracy theory you find convenient at the time (Benghazi, Uranium one, vast FBI conspiracy, etc) and yet you have the gall to talk about "the conspiracy against Trump". The sheer lack of self-awareness you display on a daily basis if unbelievable. If this wasn't who you always are I would almost think you were trolling because it really is ridiculous for someone like you to think they have the credibility to call anyone out on being a partisan hack. In short, give me a motherfucking break Jake. You, of all people have absolutely no standing to call anyone one out much less someone that does not support, apologize for or defends Hillary Clinton. Surely from reading my posts you've noticed that I couldn't care less if they lock her up and throw away the key but you're so used to using her as a shield that even in a debate with someone that dislikes her, you impulsively accuse that person of loving Hillary. You do this regardless of whether the person supports her or not because IT'S THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE LEFT! All you have are deflections, conspiracy theories, and "facts" that look somewhat credible at first glance but fall apart under actual scrutiny. It's called Occasm's razor, Jake. The simplest answer is almost always the correct answer. When you have someone accused of a crime and they do everything within their earthly power to slow down, mislead, or stop the investigation the answer isn't an all-encompassing conspiracy theory where the entire US government along with various other foreign agencies sprung a trap on a completely innocent, sitting U.S. President. The answer is the President did something he doesn't want people to know about and is trying to avoid accountability. It's that simple. Thankfully, what you believe is irrelevant because when Mueller's report states that Trump obstructed justice, his presidency is effectively over. The country won't follow a crook like him and whether you find Mueller credible or not, Trump will go down as the most corrupt President to ever take office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, thor said: Keep following the MSM lies --- after all they're about to be exposed... The sources outside the MSM seem to be providing you with plenty of lies and tin foil. Tell me Thor, what does that bastion of truth, conservativetreehouse.com have to say about all of this? On second thought, I'll just wait a few minutes. I'm sure you'll parrot the shit they pass for news verbatim in a few minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Mythos27 said: It's called Occasm's razor, Jake. The simplest answer is almost always the correct answer. If only Occam’s razor stated the simplest post is almost always the correct one then Jake would be in business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Mythos27 said: The sources outside the MSM seem to be providing you with plenty of lies and tin foil. Tell me Thor, what does that bastion of truth, conservativetreehouse.com have to say about all of this? On second thought, I'll just wait a few minutes. I'm sure you'll parrot the shit they pass for news verbatim in a few minutes. Send in the clowns... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: You continue to say he is corrupt, as if he you know for fact. Yet you then go on to say the next highlighted comment. Let me know when you have facts and not meaningless assumptions. Just find it funny that you and the rest of team Hillary seem so adamant that he is guilty. It just reminds me how people were so adamant about him losing the election. Sorry if its hard for me to buy what you and the rest of team Hillary are spewing out because yall have been wrong multiple times over the past 16 months. It took corrupt FBI agents to bail Hillary out for us to be wrong... Just remember that. Maybe that is why Strzok was picked to be on Muellers team, he is good at corruption. Yet not very good at covering his tracks. At least it caught up to him before he could continue his corrupt and biased acts. Don't like Hillary. Never have. Going back to the Hillary deflection as always, how simple of you Jake. Trump is corrupt and has been his entire life. He started out as a corrupt businessman and now he's a corrupt president. There isn't a shred of integrity in the man. Seriously though, I don't care whether you believe what the other side is saying or not because it doesn't matter. When Mueller's report comes out and it says that he believes Trump obstructed justice (and it will say he obstructed justice), all your crocodile tears and "FAKE NEWS" faux outrage won't stop what's coming. The Republicans will be forced to either impeach Trump or lose political control as they get replaced by democrats in 2018. They'll go down in history as the party who sold out the American people to suck up to a president that thinks himself a dictator. Luckily for you only we will know just how far you went to defend this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 5 hours ago, JakePA_Titan said: Sounds very convincing. Good luck convicting on belief and not evidence. That is what your entire operation has been about. Beliefs and hopes. Nothing concrete. Nothing worthy. More wrongdoing than problem solving. I have no doubt Mueller will try and "win" with his words rather than his actual findings. Are you really too dumb to see that he would believe Trump obstructed justice based on facts? Seriously? If it really means that much to you, feel free to change the word believes to the word knows. Mueller will show ample evidence that your boy is guilty as sin of obstruction and there isn't shit you or the Donald can do about it. Btw, how'd that nothing-burger of a memo turn out for you, LMAO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, JakePA_Titan said: Comey also believed Hillary was "extremely negligent" in his findings and yall threw it out. Thrn Stzrok altered his dossier. You have no facts and the BS shit you do have was built on lies and corruption. Well, Hillary WAS extremely negligent, she absolutely should not have been let off the hook IMO, and if fair minded people look at the case again and decide she needs to be locked up then they have my vote. That's the difference between you and I. I'm not here to carry the water for Trump, Hillary, or anyone else. The reason the memo flopped so spectacularly is that even taking the information out of context the way they did, they still can't show that anything improper happened. Their entire gamble rests of people like you thinking there is something legally wrong with using information gathered by a biased source when there is nothing illegal at all. In fact, the vast majority of cases in which there is a cooperating informant, the informant either has a sketchy past and or is biased against the target in some way. This is why judges look at the information itself and whether it's credible or not. In Steele's case the judge clearly agreed that the info was good and this is without having the rest of the rationale for the FISA warrant available to the public. Wait till the rest of this info comes out and you all see that thy had ample, legal, reasons to put Carter Page under surveillance. The dumbass was literally running around with a Russian spy ring in 2013. In short, even in the most biased of ways, the republicans could not demonstrate that anyone acted inappropriately in regards to this FISA warrant. Doesn't that make you feel the least bit lied to given that for weeks they've been telling you this memo is bigger than Watergate and the Immaculate conception combined? The hated MSM has been saying the memo was a nothing burger, while your heroes on the right hyped it up. When it was finally released we all saw what a limp-dick attempt at propaganda it was. It only gets worse for you guys from here on out. If Mueller manages to get Trump into a room for a one on one interview or in front of a grand jury, he's gonna cut Trump to ribbons and we both know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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