N/A Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I have no idea what you find confusing. Bachelors degrees dont really prepare you for the work force Technical degrees do. Information systems, computer science, engineering graduates would pretty much hit the ground running. Accounting too - I went to work for Arthur Andersen straight out of school and after two weeks of training, the firm was billing me out at $90 an hour and that was twenty years ago - no telling what the large accounting firms bill out brand new graduates doing the work now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 On a second thought, people in their twenties might see faster than normal promotions to fill all the spots left by retiring Babyboomers with Generation X much smaller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I have no idea what you find confusing. Bachelors degrees dont really prepare you for the work force You didn't say workforce, you said bachelors don't teach you much in either field. But regardless that is BS too. You learn 60 hours that will help you with marketing(marketing concepts, the four P's of marketing, etc.) Nurses learn 60 hours that qualifies them to treat patients (after they pass their boards of course). Management majors learn managing techniques and styles etc. Someone with a BA in Theater is not qualified to be a Human Resource Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'm typing on my phone. Sue me Technical degrees are a bit different as nines said. Psychology, marketing, most business, English, - most majors are not about the content you actually get. Business are going to train you in what they want you to know. It's really mostly about having they paper and getting the job experience. Because any job you get with just a ba or bs wil be entry level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'm typing on my phone. Sue me Technical degrees are a bit different as nines said. Psychology, marketing, most business, English, - most majors are not about the content you actually get. Business are going to train you in what they want you to know. It's really mostly about having they paper and getting the job experience. Because any job you get with just a ba or bs wil be entry level I'm not talking about technical degrees. If most majors are not about the content you receive, why do they even have majors? Business may give training for entry level positions but that doesn't qualify someone for managment because they received a BA...in literature. You are severely off base with the argument you are trying to get across. By the way you are talking, I would assume you do not have a four year degree OR a degree you received that doesn't pertain to your current field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Mine does but I hire all the time from a variety of backgrounds Why? Because schools are academic and not trade schools that are led by businesses. *shrugs* Just a fact of life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Businesses train you for mgt or want to hire those with experience in the field. I know a guy at one of the largest nonprofits in the country who has been the company's CFO for years with a social worker degree. Job experience is everything. The major you choose barely matters in most places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Businesses train you for mgt or want to hire those with experience in the field. I know a guy at one of the largest nonprofits in the country who has been the company's CFO for years with a social worker degree. Job experience is everything. The major you choose barely matters in most places. Businesses do not train people academically for management, which is why alot of organizations pay for continuing education such as an MBA. If you are in a position that you can hire or fire, I would guarantee you look over bachelor majors because yours doesn't coincide with the current managment position you hold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 MBA is different but even them it just depends on the business. And who said hey trained them academically? Man, there is no debate here. I'm just talking about the reality of he workforce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 MBA is different but even them it just depends on the business. And who said hey trained them academically? Man, there is no debate here. I'm just talking about the reality of he workforce. You said they trained them and I said they did not train them academically in terms of managment. I agree there is no debate here, I'm 100% correct. We can go back to debating why we shouldn't draft a slot WR at 10 overall where you have a little more merit with your argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 What experience do you have in this because if you have a different experience than I do- cool. But what I'm talking about is not theoretical so the only way you're right is if we both are somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dmeade- Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I didn't mean for you to share your career stuff publically. I was asking for more generall stuff. I sent you a pm with more detial. We can take this there. I erased it. I felt pretty pretentious posting that but that is what I thought you was asking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I erased it. I felt pretty pretentious posting that but that is what I thought you was asking for. Yeah I can see why, you would think I was asking for that. My bad. We have a similar background. I shared mine via pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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