pat Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Talking about nazi skin heads taking over a city in America Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mythos27 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 20 hours ago, ben4titans said: As for Trump going over there and what message he delivers, that is all part of a larger nuance. Are we hypocrites to go over there and admonish them for something we had a hand in creating? How do we tell them to fix the terror problem as we arm and train ISIS, take out semi-stable regimes creating vacuums of power, years of sanctions that have killed too many innocents, etc. The only answer is to be open and honest in regards to our wrongs in the region, ask for forgiveness and chart a new course forward. A course that puts the onus of deradicalizing their religion on them. We can't do it for them, that isn't a winning solution. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 20 hours ago, ben4titans said: Look, split hairs however you like, until moderate Muslims become the lead voice for change there will be no change. Until that happens, we should enact whatever measures necessary to protect our culture, way of life, safety and security. What exactly would moderate muslims becoming the lead voice for change look like? What do you feel they are not doing or could stand to do better? I'm not being snarky or trying to "corner" you, I'd just like a clearer picture of what this moderate opposition should look like in the eyes of a conservative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Soxcat said: Like they really give a shit maybe? See that's bullshit because people will show you countless sources of moderates speaking and holding demonstrations and it's still nothing to you. Short of taking up arms and literally fighting ISIS there isn't anything moderates can do to convince people like you that they do give a shit and that they don't support that regime. Which specific actions do you engage in every day to combat racism? If I don't feel they're enough can I just call you a racist or say you sympathize with racists? Of course I can't, because that would be absurd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, ben4titans said: Good questions, and honestly I don't know. It's tough indeed. Thank you for being honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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