WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Why do they even have a union? They caved in on most every issue. Sold out the rookies, and now rookies and first contract players make up the bulk of untalented rosters, because they are cheaper. They should have traded no testing for CTF's favorite herb for HGH. Should have an arbitration system that doesn't include the NFL office. Brady cheated it's plain as day. Now he goes before the grand master for an appeal. These players are dumb as shit and that's why most are broke within a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Sold out the rookies? LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Sold out the rookies? LOL Rookies were making unreal money, was it too much? Yes. Now it's 8 mil or so for the entire class. Sold out is the correct term. Their labor is so cheap vets get sent packing. Can't argue that because it's the truth. LOL all you want too, shows how ignorant you are on the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Do you have some stats to support that argument? Let's see them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Rookies were making unreal money, was it too much? Yes. Now it's 8 mil or so for the entire class. Sold out is the correct term. Their labor is so cheap vets get sent packing. Can't argue that because it's the truth. LOL all you want too, shows how ignorant you are on the issue. Teams spend the same on rosters regardless of how rookies got paid. The union just wanted teams to pay more of the league profits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Do you have some stats to support that argument? Let's see them. How bout you prove I'm wrong! Look it up yourself, I'm not your secretary bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 The veteran minimum salaries were increased. They took some of the money formerly paid to rookies (i.e. guys who weren't even in the union yet) and gave some of it to the lower end guys who had actually taken snaps in the NFL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 How bout you prove I'm wrong! Look it up yourself, I'm not your secretary bitch. You aren't my secretary but you did a good job of making yourself look like a little bitch anyway with that response. I'll gladly "look it up myself." Let me know where I can find the stats on the number of veteran players who lost their jobs to rookies since the new CBA was done and how that compares to before the new CBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Teams spend the same on rosters regardless of how rookies got paid. The union just wanted teams to pay more of the league profits. You are a socialist period. Why do Qb's get paid 16 to 22 million? Their value is more than a FB and rookies who are cheap. No teams don't spend the same on rosters, you are a nut sack on this issue. Wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Damn starkiller you are the one person on this board, who I thought would agree. Vets sold out rookies hoping for more money and the owners said fuck that, keep the rookie. Some vets don't get signed until injuries happen, why? 900k vs 400k or what ever the salary difference is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 The veteran minimum salaries were increased. They took some of the money formerly paid to rookies (i.e. guys who weren't even in the union yet) and gave some of it to the lower end guys who had actually taken snaps in the NFL. Lower end guys got cut (salaries not guaranteed) and rookies took the spots. Billionaires don't lose on these issues they knew what they wanted. Lower wages for rookies and vet players who are marginal. Would you pay a vet 900k who is marginal or a rookie 400k and hope for upside while saving a half mil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Answer is every poster is a GM. Trying to manage the cap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Lower end guys got cut (salaries not guaranteed) and rookies took the spots. Billionaires don't lose on these issues they knew what they wanted. Lower wages for rookies and vet players who are marginal. Would you pay a vet 900k who is marginal or a rookie 400k and hope for upside while saving a half mil? It would depend on the need(s) of my team. The owners are still going to pay someone the money because of the salary cap floor. What you should be arguing is the new agreement shifted more money to the elite players at the expense of the middle and lower classes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 How bout you prove I'm wrong! Look it up yourself, I'm not your secretary bitch. Dub! You DA man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 You are a socialist period. Why do Qb's get paid 16 to 22 million? Their value is more than a FB and rookies who are cheap. No teams don't spend the same on rosters, you are a nut sack on this issue. Wake up. The union wants the teams to spend more. They don't care if the first pick of the draft gets $15M a year or he gets $3 a year as long as the team is still paying out the same amount of money overall. And teams were tired of unproven rookies getting insane contracts, especially when so many of them turned out to be busts. Better to spend that salary cap money to proven veterans. It really isn't that hard to grasp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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