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[reo]

9 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

We've been over this before.  Clinton's Deputy Director of Central Intelligence under George Tenet, Mike Morell, told Bush and Powell the same things they told Clinton.  That Saddam had WMDs in the form of chemical weapons and was looking to re-start his Nuke program:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Michael-Morell-Saddam-Hussein-weapons-intelligence/2015/05/20/id/645875/

(Bolds are mine)

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-morell-apologizes-colin-powell-about-cia-pre-iraq-war-wmd-evidence/

 

How many times do you guys need to be reminded of this?

The whole Clinton admin and the vast majority of congress believed Saddam had WMDs before Bush was even elected, much less inaugurated, and long before 9/11.

ugh.. I really don't care enough to look into this but give me a few and i'll research it if I get a chance.

[TitanDuckFan]

1 minute ago, reo said:

ugh.. I really don't care enough to look into this but give me a few and i'll research it if I get a chance.

Do all the research you want.  Those are the facts straight from the horse's mouth.  The CIA told this government, under two different presidents, and two different State Depts. and two different Defense Depts., that Saddam had WMDs.

That bullshit meme somebody dreamed up that "Bush lied and people died" is false.  And always has been false. 

The "lie" came from the CIA under Bill Clinton.  But I don't believe it would have mattered who the president was.  The spooks screwed the pooch.

 

[reo]

4 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Do all the research you want.  Those are the facts straight from the horse's mouth.  The CIA told this government, under two different presidents, and two different State Depts. and two different Defense Depts., that Saddam had WMDs.

That bullshit meme somebody dreamed up that "Bush lied and people died" is false.  And always has been false. 

The "lie" came from the CIA under Bill Clinton.  But I don't believe it would have mattered who the president was.  The spooks screwed the pooch.

I really don't care that much about Clinton or Bush at this point.

[TitanDuckFan]

Then don't say ignorant shit like this:

1 hour ago, Little Earl said:

After Bill Clinton and all the Democrats lied about WMDs, Bush went in. 

1 hour ago, reo said:

Wait. What?

Was Bush wrong to go in?  Yes, nobody using hindsight disputes that.

But this notion that Bush lied to the world, dreaming up the rationale for it is false.

The CIA was still convinced Saddam had the shit even after Clinton lobbed a few cruise missiles into Iraq.

That meme you cling to, that Bush was at fault for the bad intel is bogus.  It's clear to anyone looking at the facts and statements about the matter, that the bad intel came out of the CIA staffed at the top with Clinton appointees.

 

[reo]

1 minute ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Then don't say ignorant shit like this:

Was Bush wrong to go in?  Yes, nobody using hindsight disputes that.

But this notion that Bush lied to the world, dreaming up the rationale for it is false.

The CIA was still convinced Saddam had the shit even after Clinton lobbed a few cruise missiles into Iraq.

That meme you cling to, that Bush was at fault for the bad intel is bogus.  It's clear to anyone looking at the facts and statements about the matter, that the bad intel came out of the CIA staffed at the top with Clinton appointees.

He said Clinton and the Dems lied about WMDs which isn't true even if what you posted is on the level and not taken out of context or only part of the story.

 

But once again, I don't care that much.

[TitanDuckFan]

24 minutes ago, reo said:

He said Clinton and the Dems lied about WMDs which isn't true even if what you posted is on the level and not taken out of context or only part of the story.

 

But once again, I don't care that much.

It's not about what I posted.  It's about what the former head of the CIA has made public, that you refuse to acknowledge, or believe.

And you don't care, because it doesn't fit your politics or your worldview.

Yet you're among the first to call me partisan.  That makes you and your opinion a joke.

Have a nice day.

LOL

[reo]

3 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

It's not about what I posted.  It's about what the former head of the CIA has made public, that you refuse to acknowledge, or believe.

And you don't care, because it doesn't fit your politics or your worldview.

Yet you're among the first to call me partisan.  That makes you and your opinion a joke.

Have a nice day.

LOL

no, it's about Earl saying Clinton and the Dems lied about WMDs and then you calling my "wait. what?" comment ignorant. Nothing you posted showed that either lied about WMDs.

And me not caring is b/c it was almost 20 years ago. I'm also not going to just arbitrarily believe anything w/o looking into it farther.. I just can't care enough about the topic to do the research.

 

 

and yes, you are massively partisan.

[TitanDuckFan]

9 minutes ago, reo said:

and yes, you are massively partisan.

No worse than you, or most on this board.

Hypocrite.

[Little Earl]

7 minutes ago, reo said:

no, it's about Earl saying Clinton and the Dems lied about WMDs and then you calling my "wait. what?" comment ignorant. Nothing you posted showed that either lied about WMDs.

And me not caring is b/c it was almost 20 years ago. I'm also not going to just arbitrarily believe anything w/o looking into it farther.. I just can't care enough about the topic to do the research.

 

I said they lied because that's all we ever heard from libs was that Bush lied about WMDs, when Bush just restated everything that the Dems said first.   I don't really think any of them were lying that they believed Saddam had them.

[reo]

8 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

No worse than you, or most on this board.

Hypocrite.

not really worth arguing b/c there's no convincing you.

[TitanDuckFan]

2 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

I said they lied because that's all we ever heard from libs was that Bush lied about WMDs, when Bush just restated everything that the Dems said first.   I don't really think any of them were lying that they believed Saddam had them.

Don't worry about it Earl.  Despite the fact that both sides said the same thing on numerous occasions, his political views won't allow him to believe that ether Bush didn't lie, or that Dems did.

He doesn't understand that you can't accuse one side of lying without implicating the other, despite the fact they both said the same thing.

Because his side is good, and the other side is bad.  It's a childlike view of the world shared by many around here.

Yet they throw around accusations of partisanship as if they know what the word means.  Which they obviously don't.

[reo]

9 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

I said they lied because that's all we ever heard from libs was that Bush lied about WMDs, when Bush just restated everything that the Dems said first.   I don't really think any of them were lying that they believed Saddam had them.

if they all believed it then it's not a lie and once again, I don't care enough to look into it farther b/c it was 20 years ago.

Who gives a shit about Clinton/Bush?

[TitanDuckFan]

2 minutes ago, reo said:

not really worth arguing b/c there's no convincing you.

Bullshit.  Show me the facts, and you'll convince me.

I show you the facts, and you say you have to do more research.  Like what?  Consult sources even more partisan than you?

Or that maybe?  If you decide to care?  Because let's face it, you're fine with the bullshit meme your stance is predicated on.

This thread is a prime example of the kind of partisanship you exhibit in every political thread.

[reo]

Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

Bullshit.  Show me the facts, and you'll convince me.

Bullshit.

Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

I show you the facts, and you say you have to do more research.  Like what?  Consult sources even more partisan than you?

For me to believe something I'd have to look into it and understand the whole story and how things fit into the story.... not read just one article which takes time. I don't care enough to put the time and effort into it.

Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

Or that maybe?  If you decide to care?  Because let's face it, you're fine with the bullshit meme your stance is predicated on.

Have I ever said that?

Just now, TitanDuckFan said:

This thread is a prime example of the kind of partisanship you exhibit in every political thread.

I agree. This is the prime example of how I operate. I refuse to blindly believe something until I research it fully.

[TitanDuckFan]

2 minutes ago, reo said:

This is the prime example of how I operate. I refuse to blindly believe something until I research it fully and find an opinion that reinforces my worldview that Republicans are stupid and bad, and Democrats are fine, upstanding, intelligent people who are all altruistic a heart.

Indeed.