CharrdWood Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 http://www.guitarworld.com/top_10_shred_albums I have a couple of complaints... 1. First should have been Racer X's "Street Lethal", with all due respect to Yngwie. 2. Second should have been Greg Howe's eponymous debut on Shrapnel, which introduced a totally new technique for shredding. 3. Vai's sole LP with Alcatrazz should be on the list. As well as his ability to MASTER Yngwie's tracks in ONE DAY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Neil Zaza's "Staring at the Sun" is jaw-dropping incredible stuff and absolutely listenable even over long periods of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Pretty sure nothing tops CC Deville's work on Look What The Cat Dragged In. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharrdWood Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Pretty sure nothing tops CC Deville's work on Look What The Cat Dragged In. God, I hated when Hair Metal was in vogue and you'd get tools like him, Sambora, and Mick Mars claiming that they were great guitarists because of how many records they'd sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 The article was from 2009.. I still get Guitar world and they have a hard on for Yngwie at all times.. Still u get some pretty cool chops and articles from time to time..One of the few magazines I have kept since the internet boom.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharrdWood Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 The article was from 2009.. I still get Guitar world and they have a hard on for Yngwie at all times.. Still u get some pretty cool chops and articles from time to time..One of the few magazines I have kept since the internet boom.. In a way it's understandable. It's just kind of a shame that Yngwie betrayed his promise and his spiritual forefathers. There was always something precious, unlikeable, nearly pathetic about him. Whereas Gilbert knows not to take himself too seriously, and is the better musician for it. Ever hear this: Friggin' awesome, especially the solo section over the chord progression to "Comfortably Numb". Yngwie would never have that sense of irony/self-deprecation, as great as he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 You know I always have a visceral negative reaction to musical snobbery. I'm a huge music fan....out of the "respected" guitarists I can name publically without having some music nerd admonish me for my unsophisticated tastes is probably Satriani. I've been a huge fan ever since Surfing and have bought every album since and I try to never miss him live whether it be solo or with DP or most recently with Chickenfoot (which kicked ass). I definitely side towards melodic type playing vs. shredding. I'll also say guys like Angus Young, Ace Frehley, Mick Mars have had way more meningful momorable solo's to my lifetime than Yngvie Freakin Malmsteen. It doesn't matter to me that there's millions of barroom guitarists that can easily play their licks wth ease. They played those licks first. They wrote them. That's what matters. I can appreciate the finger calisthetics and all that jazz but ultimately I just want to see a guy play a solo that fits the song and sounds good. Music snobbery around Rock n Roll is laughable. They are all music illiterates. It's throw away art. The guy in the 5th row of the Boston philharmonic has mnore music chops in his pinky than Paul Gilbert does in his entire body. CC Deville actually isn't that bad when he's not coked up though I make fun of him like everyone else cause Poison sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I said Satriani...Mmmm maybe Lifeson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Man....if mp3 players had been around 20 years ago, my playlist would have looked like this top-ten list. I was a huge fan of the whole Mike Varney/Shrapnel shredder scene....especially guys like Tony MacAlpine, Vinnie Moore and Greg Howe. Also went through the obligatory Steve Vai phase, the Steve Morse phase, and of course, an Eric Johnson phase. (Never much cared for Yngwie, though. Even back then, when I lived for shred guitar, I thought his playing was way too self-indulgent.) Speaking of 80's shred guys....kinda interesting story. Well, interesting to me, anyway: Several years ago, when my son was maybe 8-10 years old, we took him to see the band N'Sync. Awesome, right? Anyway....on those rare occasions where they actually put a bit of guitar in the FOH mix, I could hear that the band's guitarist was absolutely rippin', throwing out all sorts of funky/jazzy/bluesy shred licks left and right. And I'm thinking to myself, "Man....the lip syncing is getting old, but this guitarist is real bad-ass. Kinda reminds me of Greg Howe." So later in the show, they're introducing the band members, and when they finally introduce the mystery guitarist....of course, it's Greg friggin' Howe. Playing guitar for N'Sync, no less. So at least something worthwhile came out of that evening. (And along that same vein.....I'm sure it's become common knowledge that guitarist extraordinaire Nuno Bettencourt now plays guitar in Rihanna's band. But just in case there's someone that hadn't heard about it....now you know.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharrdWood Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Man....if mp3 players had been around 20 years ago, my playlist would have looked like this top-ten list. I was a huge fan of the whole Mike Varney/Shrapnel shredder scene....especially guys like Tony MacAlpine, Vinnie Moore and Greg Howe. Also went through the obligatory Steve Vai phase, the Steve Morse phase, and of course, an Eric Johnson phase. (Never much cared for Yngwie, though. Even back then, when I lived for shred guitar, I thought his playing was way too self-indulgent.) Speaking of 80's shred guys....kinda interesting story. Well, interesting to me, anyway: Several years ago, when my son was maybe 8-10 years old, we took him to see the band N'Sync. Awesome, right? Anyway....on those rare occasions where they actually put a bit of guitar in the FOH mix, I could hear that the band's guitarist was absolutely rippin', throwing out all sorts of funky/jazzy/bluesy shred licks left and right. And I'm thinking to myself, "Man....the lip syncing is getting old, but this guitarist is real bad-ass. Kinda reminds me of Greg Howe." So later in the show, they're introducing the band members, and when they finally introduce the mystery guitarist....of course, it's Greg friggin' Howe. Playing guitar for N'Sync, no less. So at least something worthwhile came out of that evening. (And along that same vein.....I'm sure it's become common knowledge that guitarist extraordinaire Nuno Bettencourt now plays guitar in Rihanna's band. But just in case there's someone that hadn't heard about it....now you know.) Yeah, man, Howe has played with NSYNC, Timberlake, Enrique Iglesias, and Michael friggin' Jackson! He's done well for himself. And, yet, he still has to try to get guitar students online. Just shows how difficult it is to be a great musician rather than a great...well...whatever they are... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharrdWood Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 You know I always have a visceral negative reaction to musical snobbery. I'm a huge music fan....out of the "respected" guitarists I can name publically without having some music nerd admonish me for my unsophisticated tastes is probably Satriani. I've been a huge fan ever since Surfing and have bought every album since and I try to never miss him live whether it be solo or with DP or most recently with Chickenfoot (which kicked ass). I definitely side towards melodic type playing vs. shredding. I'll also say guys like Angus Young, Ace Frehley, Mick Mars have had way more meningful momorable solo's to my lifetime than Yngvie Freakin Malmsteen. It doesn't matter to me that there's millions of barroom guitarists that can easily play their licks wth ease. They played those licks first. They wrote them. That's what matters. I can appreciate the finger calisthetics and all that jazz but ultimately I just want to see a guy play a solo that fits the song and sounds good. Music snobbery around Rock n Roll is laughable. They are all music illiterates. It's throw away art. The guy in the 5th row of the Boston philharmonic has mnore music chops in his pinky than Paul Gilbert does in his entire body. CC Deville actually isn't that bad when he's not coked up though I make fun of him like everyone else cause Poison sucks. Christ, I would have thought that music snobbery was recognized as the ENTIRE reason for the post. But, don't worry--and I know you won't--I won't think anything at all one way or the other about you based on the music you like. I'm certainly not gonna insult you for what you like. But I do wish I could go back to visit my relatives and pick up actual Canadian cases of Export. And Canadian. Oh, and btw, no, that dude in the 5th row of ANY philharmonic DOES NOT have a greater command of his instrument than does Gilbert. You may not like shred, but you should give PG a chance. He's WAAAAAYYYYYYY more talented than they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 The guy in the 5th row of the Boston philharmonic has mnore music chops in his pinky than Paul Gilbert does in his entire body. "Boston philharmonic"....I think I've heard of them. Aren't they a Beethoven/Brahms/Hayden cover band? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 The shred thread is living up to its name... LOL Nuno was pretty bad ass solo starts at 2:58.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I went to see Michael De Batio a couple of summers ago. He was performing at this music street fest not far from here. That guy is incredible but I had the sound of angry bees in my ears for like 3 days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Some of the 80's guitar guys actually do alot of work in Nashville recording on country albums. This makes me cry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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