Jay Cutler (Thread update: Unnamed Sources saying deal w/Titans in works)

[JLocker10]

I'm no expert on CHI football, but didn't he have some pretty good stats when Marshall and Jeffrey were healthy?

Statistically, he was about the same

[JLocker10]

The Bears are dead last in points allowed

[JLocker10]

Whats unreal about that? Sometimes you gotta get outta there. Sometimes...you might even move the pocket schematically if you arent too stubborn and thickheaded to do so. Its nice to mix it up from time to time. Its nice to be able to utilize escape ability and not be punished for it. Just saying...Cutler played his best ball when those were elements of his game.That being said...might not be a good fit here.

Cutler is better when he's improvising a little bit

[big2033]

This league man ... as long as you hit a QB check list that's quantifiable you get excuse after excuse and chance after chance.

[Guest]

The injury excuse is just that, an excuse. This is an offense with 2 top WRs, an excellent Pass catching TE, and Matt freaking Forte on it. An average QB should be able to light up all but the best defenses with that supporting cast. The issue with Cutler is that he doesn't do the little things that are required of an NFL QB. He sucks at adjusting protections. He sucks at hitting check downs when the coverage dictates, and he above all else the guy may be worst leader at the position in the NFL. 

[JLocker10]

And the Falcons and Saints aren't good teams either

[Guest]

Whats unreal about that? Sometimes you gotta get outta there. Sometimes...you might even move the pocket schematically if you arent too stubborn and thickheaded to do so. Its nice to mix it up from time to time. Its nice to be able to utilize escape ability and not be punished for it. Just saying...Cutler played his best ball when those were elements of his game.That being said...might not be a good fit here.

 

Did you watch him in Denver? He wasn't using his mobility to improvise and escape the pocket. He was running designed bootlegs to alter his launch point. He's a pocket passer through and through.

[Tim]

Cutler has never been very good and it is little surprise to me it came to this. It's always someone else's fault but Jay's. The truth is, true franchise QB's elevate their teams. Jay has never done that professionally. He has a strong arm, and that is it. Zero respect for ball security after how many years I the league. Terrible leadership ability. Doesn't take care of his diabetes. If the Titans were stupid enough to bring in this guy, the team might as well fold for good. This is a franchise that took Locker in the top 10 though. They just may be that stupid.

[big2033]

Did you watch him in Denver? He wasn't using his mobility to improvise and escape the pocket. He was running designed bootlegs to alter his launch point. He's a pocket passer through and through.

 

It's was also to cut the field in half. The guy eyes down receivers all day and has gotten away with it because of a rocket arm.

 

That's why over the years receivers with Cutler at QB would occasionally have 15 reception games. Eddie Royal had a couple of those in Denver ... It's why Marshall was so perfect for him. Big receiver that Cutler can whip anything at.

 

It's also why DeAngelo Hall once had an four interception game versus Cutler ... stating that "he kept throwing it at me..." The guy doesn't make adjustments... he sees a player he likes and whips it into coverage. It only gets you so far.

[scine09]

This comes from Mike Sando of ESPN.com, the guy that polls the GM's about QB rankings and has a lot of inside sources.  Please note that this is the only part of the article that's relevant to any other teams. The only other possibility that Sando mentioned was Cutler staying in Chicago.

 

Chicago's Cutler exit strategies What options do Bears have if they choose to move on? And at what cost?

 

 

The Chicago Bears' move to bench quarterback Jay Cutler sure looks like a prelude to releasing or trading the NFL's 2014 leader in turnovers. It would be an amazing, perhaps even unprecedented move one year after the Bears signed Cutler to a seven-year contract averaging $18.1 million per season. The Cutler deal would go down with Washington's ill-fated contract with Albert Haynesworth as one of the worst in league history, although Haynesworth made it to a second season, at least.

 

The Cutler contract carries $15.5 million in fully guaranteed salary for 2015. As I wrote Tuesday, that commitment means the Bears are pretty much stuck with Cutler next season unless they're willing to eat that $15.5 million, or unless they can find a trading partner. Benching is not the same as releasing or trading, but it's the strongest indication yet that Cutler could be finished in Chicago after six seasons and a 52.2 total QBR score that ranks 17th out of 29 qualifying players over the past six years. The team has a 44-37 record (plus 1-1 in postseason) with Cutler starting.

The Bears' moving on from Cutler seems unlikely on the surface because of the cost involved -- as I wrote Tuesday -- but if the team decides that's what it has to do, what options are at Chicago's disposal?

Over the past couple of days, three front-office executives from other teams shared their thoughts on potential exit strategies for the Bears, should the team decide to go that route. Two of them suggested the same trade partner -- one that would add another high-profile name to the already long list of coaches who have bet on Cutler. The third executive explained why a trade could be tricky. Another thought benching Cutler could diminish his value, but the move also could shield the team from considerable liability if Cutler is indeed finished with the Bears.

There is much to consider as Cutler heads into Week 16 as the backup to Jimmy Clausen just 350 days after the Bears marked his new contract by saying they were "very excited to have Jay for the long term."

 

 

 

 

Execs think Titans are a logical trade partner

 

 

Any team needing a quarterback is a potential suitor, but two executives said they thought Tennessee would be the most logical landing spot for Cutler if he is released or traded.

The thinking is that the Titans will move on from Jake Locker after this season, and they haven't seen enough from Zach Mettenberger to bank on him as their starter. Cutler played college football in the state at Vanderbilt, which could make him more marketable in Tennessee -- a potential consideration for Titans president and CEO Tommy Smith, who has already pledged to spend aggressively in an effort to upgrade the team's roster. The Titans are 2-12 and in the running for a high draft choice, but one of the executives did not see an ideal quarterback fit for coach Ken Whisenhunt early in the draft.

"The kid from Oregon [Marcus Mariota] could be seen as more of a run-around quarterback, and that isn't the type of guy Whisenhunt has traditionally wanted," one of the executives said, before adding that Florida State QB Jameis Winston's off-field concerns could scare the team away from drafting him. "They could add Cutler and justify it as buying time to develop Mettenberger. That would not be a hard sell."

Trading for Cutler would require taking on his guaranteed salary, a strong deterrent. One executive said he could see the Titans giving up a late-round pick for Cutler and trading down from the top of the draft to add picks for restocking the roster. But it is not known whether Tennessee would have interest.

Teams cannot make trades until the first day of the 2015 league year, which is scheduled to begin March 10. According to information on file with the NFL Players Association, Cutler's contract calls for $10 million in 2016 salary to become fully guaranteed if he remains on the roster for the third day of the 2015 league year. That means the Bears would have to consummate a trade between March 10 and March 11 to avoid becoming liable for another $10 million in guarantees (on top of the $15.5 million that is already fully guaranteed). Two days seems like not much time to get a deal done, but teams planning moves this significant would put out feelers ahead of time and have something in place with time to spare. They would not wait until the first day of the league year.

The team acquiring Cutler would also acquire his contract, which could mean committing to that $10 million for 2016, barring a quick renegotiation.

[apocalypse33]

I've only said Cutler sucks for years. Is he worthy of a qb job in the NFL? Probably, but I'd never want him as my QB. He's never improved and makes the same mistakes he's made since year 1.

[Panther83]

Did you watch him in Denver? He wasn't using his mobility to improvise and escape the pocket. He was running designed bootlegs to alter his launch point. He's a pocket passer through and through.

Not only did i watch him in Denver...I followed him through Vanderbilt as well. Did I not mention moving moving the pocket in my previous post?? He is more athletic than what you wanna give him credit for.My point is...this staff isnt gonna incorporate any of the elements that he had his most success with..so hes probably not the best fit. When you really follow him...he doesnt play his best ball pretending to be a statue,be it by design or improvising (which he has shown some ability to do, believe it or not).

[Guest]

Not only did i watch him in Denver...I followed him through Vanderbilt as well. Did I not mention moving moving the pocket in my previous post?? He is more athletic than what you wanna give him credit for.My point is...this staff isnt gonna incorporate any of the elements that he had his most success with..so hes probably not the best fit. When you really follow him...he doesnt play his best ball pretending to be a statue,be it by design or improvising (which he has shown some ability to do, believe it or not).

 

Cutler is a pocket passer who happens to have a little mobility. You are allowing your clear bias toward running QBs to cloud your judgement. Asking a QB to setup in the pocket, go throw progressions, and deliver the ball with accuracy does not mean you want a status back there. In fact its required of every good QB. 

[Guest]

He's one of the better out of pocket throwers in the league though and the numbers throughout his career have born that out. 

[scine09]

The more I think about it the more I wonder if Whisenhunt will want Cutler as his next "project" like what happened with Rivers. If you all remember Rivers was flat out awful in 2012 and did a complete 180 last year under Whisenhunt.

 

I guess it wouldn't shock me if Cutler was to be traded to the Titans.