NashvilleNinja Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://wreg.com/2012/11/27/news-channel-3-learns-of-tennessees-new-twist-to-lure-gruden/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hey, if it works more power to em. Can't be any worse than the way Alabama got Saban with use of a private jet and all other sorts of amenities... on top of the mountain of cash dumped in his lap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Some of the folks on Volsnation just got a ton of credibility in my book. They said this, verbatim, roughly a month ago. Also the Bucs hangup should be resolved on the 30th. That's when his last paycheck is supposed to pay out. We just may get Gruden...crazy Jonboy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pathetic You really think so? This is do or die time for this football program. They need a "Calipari" like hire after UK's fiasco with Gillispie. Recruits would be lining up to play for Gruden. Stranger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 You really think so? This is do or die time for this football program. They need a "Calipari" like hire after UK's fiasco with Gillispie. Yes, it is pathetic just like the Peyton-Bud adams saga was. Recruits would be lining up to play for Gruden. Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 gruden to knoxville is genius for UT football.. They will be back up there with FLA in the east within 2 years.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 WG - assuming it happens, he's one of the most relevant coaches in the last 10 years, if not ever, to get into the NCAA game. A Super Bowl ring and a few years of being in every teenagers home every Monday night goes a long way. Who knows if he translates well to college, but given his pedigree, it's silly to assume he couldn't make a winning formula, plus having handfuls of four and five star recruits every year on name alone goes a long way. You're a smart guy, parity doesn't really exist in the college game and a big name almost ensures top notch talent. Gruden is the biggest fish that's nibbled the bait in a long, long time. Stranger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I think you are giving Gruden way too much credit in his skill coaching and overvaluing his ability in recruiting. The emergence of south carolina and a few other programs are causing UT to not get quality talent over the past decade. I doubt Gruden changes that. Edited November 28, 2012 by WG53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 PFT doesn't seem to think it's all that likely: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/28/report-gruden-to-get-browns-ownership-stake-in-offer-to-coach-vols/ Here’s another possible hiccup. According to John Infante, who worked as a NCAA compliance officer at Colorado State University and ran the Bylaw Blog for the NCAA website, NCAA rules would prohibit this transaction unless the ownership stake was first gifted to the University of Tennessee. He says there is no rule prohibiting coaches being involved with pro teams but rather the issue has to do with outside compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think you are giving Gruden way too much credit in his skill coaching and overvaluing his ability in recruiting. The emergence of south carolina and a few other programs are causing UT to not get quality talent over the past decade. I doubt Gruden changes that. I don't think you're giving him enough credit. Do I think he's a great coach? No. But he was a damn good coach. You don't lead a team to hoist the Lombardi, even if it was someone else's squad, and not be damn good at it. And like I've mentioned before... the team he beat in the Super Bowl was the team HE built. He knows X's and O's and he's a household name, especially after this media hurricane of "will he/won't he". To act like this won't massively help UT and put a sizable dent in other program's abilities to woo players away from UT is silly. Giving credit where credit is due isn't going to cause you to contract aids... Mercalius, and Stranger 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think you are giving Gruden way too much credit in his skill coaching and overvaluing his ability in recruiting. The emergence of south carolina and a few other programs are causing UT to not get quality talent over the past decade. I doubt Gruden changes that. I disagree. With a hire like Gruden, I bet you're looking at a top 10 (maybe top 5) recruiting class for at least the first three years, even longer if the team does well - which largely depends on the recruiting class. And I know how he loved veterans and runs a WCO, but dismissing the coaching ability of a SB winning coach whos team, even if largely Dungy's, played said coaches old team, just seems silly. This is like a chess player going back to checkers, but getting to start with 3 more pieces than his opponent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 So he wins a superbowl against his former team who did not change their calls and the defense he did not coach won them the game. Yet I do not give him enough credit? Right.... Is he a decent coach? Yes. Will he be the next big thing? Maybe but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 That was one game WG. It was still a team he basically built (exact argument for claiming he won Dungy's team a SB). The team Gruden built and the team he coached both made it to the championship. Yes, the tuck rule helped with one, but you can't discount one without giving credit to the other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 So now he guarantees 3 top 10 recruiting classes? Lmfao right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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