TeamRamrod Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM I could maybe get behind Tomlin if he brought Art with him. I don’t trust his Matt Canada/Todd Haley hiring ass with a new OC though oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted yesterday at 08:19 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:19 PM 1 minute ago, tgo said: It's unlikely of course, but if he were to get another shot at OC it could look something like a Weaver setup where he's the third choice they end up pivoting to or something. I think he's a stylistic fit for Ward and mentioned him because of the Weaver connection. More than likely he ends up back with Vrabel in a senior assistant capacity. I enjoyed his offense so much more than the Callahan offense, and of course liked that hire from the start (hated the Downing hire). Definitely a better fit for guys like Levis/Ward than Callahan's pure West Coast system. That wasn't his offense though, it was what Vrabel told him to run. Just like Downing. I don't think we really know what Downing/Kelly are. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted yesterday at 08:20 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:20 PM 4 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: I like this. We should go ahead and hire 17. Then fire one at each loss... I said we should do that with interim coaches this year so you know im all in for this. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted yesterday at 08:21 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:21 PM The thing with Tomlin is that he probably guarantees a floor and stabilizes a franchise bobbing in the gutter. But with how front-office-centric the Titans new set up is, and with Tomlin wanting full control over his coaching staff, would it be a workable marriage? I'm not sure. Also the desire by the org to move toward a more analytics centered approach would seem to not be compatible with Tomlin's old school views on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted yesterday at 08:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:28 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, scine09 said: That wasn't his offense though, it was what Vrabel told him to run. Just like Downing. I don't think we really know what Downing/Kelly are. You could definitely see the tendencies differentiate between those two. But the system that Kelly/Downing both ran is rooted in the Erhardt/Perkins verbiage and philosophy (which is what McDaniels uses also). Kelly ran the same system under BOB and it looked quite similar stylistically between both O'Brien and Vrabel - which is why that hiring was a fit. The Titans variation under Vrabel was an interesting mix though - they kept the LaFleur zone run game (Shanahan OZ) but used the Erhardt/Perkins system and passing philosophy overall. That's partially why the run game and pass game often seemed disjointed. Anyway, Erhardt/Perkins philosophy (BOB, Daboll, Tim Kelly, McDaniels, Mularkey to an extent) is very different than the West Coast systems of the Gruden/Reid/Callahan varieties (power/man blocking centrally, some inside zone). Also of course much different than the Shanahan tree which is much more reliant on pre-snap motions and recognition, and outside zone running to control the horizontal flow of the defense. Lot more 2 TE sets, roll-outs, play-action, etc. Edited yesterday at 08:33 PM by tgo Nash 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted yesterday at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:37 PM This franchise needs a Tomlin type. In the worst way. I may not be the biggest Tomlin fan but for where the franchise is now it would be a home run hire imo. Omar, SuperFreak90, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted yesterday at 08:40 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:40 PM 11 minutes ago, tgo said: You could definitely see the tendencies differentiate between those two. But the system that Kelly/Downing both ran is rooted in the Erhardt/Perkins verbiage and philosophy (which is what McDaniels uses also). Kelly ran the same system under BOB and it looked quite similar stylistically between both O'Brien and Vrabel - which is why that hiring was a fit. The Titans variation under Vrabel was an interesting mix though - they kept the LaFleur zone run game (Shanahan OZ) but used the Erhardt/Perkins system and passing philosophy overall. That's partially why the run game and pass game often seemed disjointed. Anyway, Erhardt/Perkins philosophy (BOB, Daboll, Tim Kelly, McDaniels, Mularkey to an extent) is very different than the West Coast systems of the Gruden/Reid/Callahan varieties (power/man blocking centrally, some inside zone). Also of course much different than the Shanahan tree which is much more reliant on pre-snap motions and recognition, and outside zone running to control the horizontal flow of the defense. Lot more 2 TE sets, roll-outs, play-action, etc. Weaver IMO is a very strong candidate tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted yesterday at 08:44 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:44 PM My hope would be that Anthony Weaver would be a young Tomlin, but born out of the Ravens defensive legacy and more open to on field analytics. The actual Tomlin would be pretty sweet too though. With a franchise QB, his consistent approach could work wonders for an aimless franchise. I'm not sure I can fully envision that coming to fruition though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted yesterday at 08:45 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:45 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Weaver IMO is a very strong candidate I think him becoming a HC somewhere is inevitable. Unlike someone like Kafka, who may never get another shot if he doesn't make it with the Giants. Weaver I think is basically like some mix of Tomlin and Vrabel, but without the unnecessary stubborn asshole vibes. Like a more charismatic and newer age version of Todd Bowles. But I guess Bowles is really more of a scheme guru who calls his own defense, whereas Weaver is more of a pure leader-of-men type that doesn't hang his hat on being a scheme guru and most likely wouldn't call the defense. Weaver totally lights up and commands any room that he walks into (is physically large too - prototype 5T DE build), but with kind of a charismatic optimism moreso than a Vrabel-esque snarky insecure Alpha vibe. Edited yesterday at 08:56 PM by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted yesterday at 09:03 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:03 PM Tomlin looks like a HC that could do with a year out of the NFL to recharge his batteries. titanskick8851, DCTitan, and TeamRamrod 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted yesterday at 09:36 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:36 PM 57 minutes ago, scine09 said: This franchise needs a Tomlin type. In the worst way. I may not be the biggest Tomlin fan but for where the franchise is now it would be a home run hire imo. This part in underrated . We are a damn joke and need to get back to a respectable level. Whatever you think about Tomlin the guy can coach and above whatever talent level is there. I think he takes the Bengals job if he’s fired and that one is open though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted yesterday at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:54 PM 15 minutes ago, rns90 said: This part in underrated . We are a damn joke and need to get back to a respectable level. Whatever you think about Tomlin the guy can coach and above whatever talent level is there. I think he takes the Bengals job if he’s fired and that one is open though. While I agree tomlin would get us out of the dumpster I haven't seen anythkng in his near 20 years to make me think he will make the leap to contender coach. But if everyone just wants fisher+ then sure. Also him with the bengals would also be funny since marv lewis was practically fisher as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted yesterday at 10:22 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:22 PM The parallels of the Titans hiring Tomlin to the Rams hiring Fisher.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted yesterday at 10:26 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:26 PM Tomlin won a Super Bowl. Could've easily won two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago Well........steelers fans are doing their part to run him off. Nothing like prying into a man's extramarital affairs to make him want to leave. I could give a fuck less about his moral compass. He is a leader of men! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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