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14 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

The problem with the focus of power on lineage, as Tyrion illustrated, is that children of rulers tend to be cruel at times. Jon being named king simply because he's a Targaryen would have been just more of the same. It's why they began choosing leaders instead of having them born.

 

Not all purpose means ultimate power or ultimate conquer in battle. I've seen it said that it wasn't the WWs who were the greatest threat to mankind but actually Daenerys. Jon is the only one who could have gotten close enough to her at that point and the only reason for that was because he is a Targaryen. Drogon would not have let anyone else past that point.

 

So no, his lineage is not insignificant. Arya may have saved Westeros from the WWs, but it was Jon who ultimately saved the whole world.

 

Personally I didn't like the outcome... I would have preferred it if Tyrion had been revealed as a Targaryen. Idk why she chose to have Tyrion imprisoned instead of executed. But she could have had Drogon roast him and he not burn from it. Would have made for an epic moment in the show.

 

Things didn't even need to change in the ending much for that reality. Tyrion would renounce the crown, Dany returns to Essos and Daario, but on the back of Drogon instead of in his claw. Jon goes beyond the wall, but of his own volition instead of being exiled there. Grey Worm and the Unsullied go to Naath, Sansa declares the north a separate kingdom, Arya sails west, and Bran is chosen to be king.

I can appreciate this as the story.

The execution of the events still was lacking.  :(

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Either the showrunners or GRRM decided to take a story/script that was based in historical reality, including the grittiness, brutality and intrigue and spun it into something politically correct.

As a result, there's a lot of people like myself who are done with it.

I had intended to buy the series on BluRay/DVD to preserve it for on-demand watching, but the end was way too disappointing to invest that much time in the run-up.

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1 hour ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Either the showrunners or GRRM decided to take a story/script that was based in historical reality, including the grittiness, brutality and intrigue and spun it into something politically correct.

As a result, there's a lot of people like myself who are done with it.

I had intended to buy the series on BluRay/DVD to preserve it for on-demand watching, but the end was way too disappointing to invest that much time in the run-up.

I have seasons 1-5 (might have 6, but can't remember because I know I haven't rewatched it).  I won't be buying 7 or 8 (though 7 had a few badass moments like the "loot train attack" and blowing up the sept with that kickass music).

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10 hours ago, Starkiller said:

There’s no way the Lost finale was better than GOT.

 

The expectations were bigger though

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5 hours ago, CreepingDeath said:

I can appreciate this as the story.

The execution of the events still was lacking.  :(

 

No disagreement there. They needed at least three 10-episode seasons to pull off what they were trying to pull off. The fact they condensed all of that into essentially 1.3 seasons was incredibly stupid and hurt the story tremendously.

 

Maybe the actors were burned out, but I'm guessing B&W were anxious to get it out of the way so rhey could focus on Star Wars.

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On 10/2/2019 at 5:15 PM, CreepingDeath said:

I have seasons 1-5 (might have 6, but can't remember because I know I haven't rewatched it).  I won't be buying 7 or 8 (though 7 had a few badass moments like the "loot train attack" and blowing up the sept with that kickass music).


It is, however, the only way you can actually watch the Battle of Winterfell without the HBO broadcast compression making it too dark to see.

 

Or just pirate it like... um... some people...

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Good/Bad/Whatever News over the past few days:

  • D&D are no longer doing Star Wars (probably given the boot due to the blowback of ruining GoT)
  • The Long Night (or whatever it was being called) is cancelled
  • HBO officially announced a Targ prequel series

 

D&D gave an interview recently where they admitted that the first season of GoT was like an "expensive film school" for them.  The didn't know what to do with costuming and a bunch of other (I would imagine to be embarrassing) stuff.  They also said they tried to remove as much fantasy as possible to make the show more accessible to "moms and NFL players."  The jokers admitted to not looking at overall themes from the books and just focused on each individual scene.

 

So there ya go.  

 

I wasn't excited at all for the now-cancelled show.  The creation of the Others is no longer important after S8.  There are other set-piece dramas out there I could watch if I cared - Vikings, Marco Polo, some Roman gladiator show...

 

The Targ show I'll watch - but that's because I know the story and the story is good.  Not knowing if the story is good ahead of time is a hindrance in today's TV market. 

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On 3/15/2013 at 10:43 PM, Jonboy said:

Just got into this series a few weeks ago. Raced through season 1 and season 2 and immediately started the first book. Pretty amazing stuff. Tyrion Lannister is freakin' awesome btw.

 

Any timetable on the release date for The Winds of Winter?


This year for sure, right?

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