OILERMAN Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 There's no way the GOT ending is worse than Dexter's ending, idgaf how many of Dany's dragons died. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 There’s no way the Lost finale was better than GOT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 It was worse because of how badass the second to last episode was as well as the epic nature of the entire show. They had a shot to make the greatest show in history and shit the bed in the worst way possible. Jamalisms, and TitanDuckFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 The relevance of the show plummeted. The rewatchability is extremely low now. The importance of Jon's parents is insignificant. Him being the PtWP doesn't lead to him being "the one" to end the WW threat nor rule the 7 kingdoms. Read someone's comment that if Jon had stayed dead, the WW couldn't get passed the wall (no dragon) and Dany would have taken Kingslanding easily with all three dragons. I have a couple GoT t-shirts that I think twice before wearing because I'd rather not have to talk about the show and how it ended with strangers. TitanDuckFan, and Jonboy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, CreepingDeath said: The relevance of the show plummeted. The rewatchability is extremely low now. The importance of Jon's parents is insignificant. Him being the PtWP doesn't lead to him being "the one" to end the WW threat nor rule the 7 kingdoms. The problem with the focus of power on lineage, as Tyrion illustrated, is that children of rulers tend to be cruel at times. Jon being named king simply because he's a Targaryen would have been just more of the same. It's why they began choosing leaders instead of having them born. Not all purpose means ultimate power or ultimate conquer in battle. I've seen it said that it wasn't the WWs who were the greatest threat to mankind but actually Daenerys. Jon is the only one who could have gotten close enough to her at that point and the only reason for that was because he is a Targaryen. Drogon would not have let anyone else past that point. So no, his lineage is not insignificant. Arya may have saved Westeros from the WWs, but it was Jon who ultimately saved the whole world. Personally I didn't like the outcome... I would have preferred it if Tyrion had been revealed as a Targaryen. Idk why she chose to have Tyrion imprisoned instead of executed. But she could have had Drogon roast him and he not burn from it. Would have made for an epic moment in the show. Things didn't even need to change in the ending much for that reality. Tyrion would renounce the crown, Dany returns to Essos and Daario, but on the back of Drogon instead of in his claw. Jon goes beyond the wall, but of his own volition instead of being exiled there. Grey Worm and the Unsullied go to Naath, Sansa declares the north a separate kingdom, Arya sails west, and Bran is chosen to be king. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: The problem with the focus of power on lineage, as Tyrion illustrated, is that children of rulers tend to be cruel at times. Jon being named king simply because he's a Targaryen would have been just more of the same. It's why they began choosing leaders instead of having them born. Not all purpose means ultimate power or ultimate conquer in battle. I've seen it said that it wasn't the WWs who were the greatest threat to mankind but actually Daenerys. Jon is the only one who could have gotten close enough to her at that point and the only reason for that was because he is a Targaryen. Drogon would not have let anyone else past that point. So no, his lineage is not insignificant. Arya may have saved Westeros from the WWs, but it was Jon who ultimately saved the whole world. Personally I didn't like the outcome... I would have preferred it if Tyrion had been revealed as a Targaryen. Idk why she chose to have Tyrion imprisoned instead of executed. But she could have had Drogon roast him and he not burn from it. Would have made for an epic moment in the show. Things didn't even need to change in the ending much for that reality. Tyrion would renounce the crown, Dany returns to Essos and Daario, but on the back of Drogon instead of in his claw. Jon goes beyond the wall, but of his own volition instead of being exiled there. Grey Worm and the Unsullied go to Naath, Sansa declares the north a separate kingdom, Arya sails west, and Bran is chosen to be king. I can appreciate this as the story. The execution of the events still was lacking. Jamalisms, and TitanDuckFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Either the showrunners or GRRM decided to take a story/script that was based in historical reality, including the grittiness, brutality and intrigue and spun it into something politically correct. As a result, there's a lot of people like myself who are done with it. I had intended to buy the series on BluRay/DVD to preserve it for on-demand watching, but the end was way too disappointing to invest that much time in the run-up. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TitanDuckFan said: Either the showrunners or GRRM decided to take a story/script that was based in historical reality, including the grittiness, brutality and intrigue and spun it into something politically correct. As a result, there's a lot of people like myself who are done with it. I had intended to buy the series on BluRay/DVD to preserve it for on-demand watching, but the end was way too disappointing to invest that much time in the run-up. I have seasons 1-5 (might have 6, but can't remember because I know I haven't rewatched it). I won't be buying 7 or 8 (though 7 had a few badass moments like the "loot train attack" and blowing up the sept with that kickass music). TitanDuckFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Starkiller said: There’s no way the Lost finale was better than GOT. The expectations were bigger though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The expectations were bigger though I don’t know, Lost was a pretty big hit in its day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 5 hours ago, CreepingDeath said: I can appreciate this as the story. The execution of the events still was lacking. No disagreement there. They needed at least three 10-episode seasons to pull off what they were trying to pull off. The fact they condensed all of that into essentially 1.3 seasons was incredibly stupid and hurt the story tremendously. Maybe the actors were burned out, but I'm guessing B&W were anxious to get it out of the way so rhey could focus on Star Wars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Come on Titans, CreepingDeath, and Jonboy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 "smash bros style" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) On 10/2/2019 at 5:15 PM, CreepingDeath said: I have seasons 1-5 (might have 6, but can't remember because I know I haven't rewatched it). I won't be buying 7 or 8 (though 7 had a few badass moments like the "loot train attack" and blowing up the sept with that kickass music). It is, however, the only way you can actually watch the Battle of Winterfell without the HBO broadcast compression making it too dark to see. Or just pirate it like... um... some people... Edited October 14, 2019 by Starkiller CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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