Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: He did because not a single soul on earth could force him. This is technically true but not really. He couldn’t win without support. He stepped down but it wasn’t because he read the room, it was because they starved him of support and made it clear he would either step aside a hero or go down the villain. He had no real choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 Just now, Justafan said: This is technically true but not really. He couldn’t win without support. He stepped down but it wasn’t because he read the room, it was because they starved him of support and made it clear he would either step aside a hero or go down the villain. He had no real choice. I mean yeah. So what? No one here thought he should be the nominee or president on his own merit after the debate. OILERMAN, and CreepingDeath 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 Just now, Titans279 said: I mean yeah. So what? No one here thought he should be the nominee or president on his own merit after the debate. What is your deal? Go back and read what I’m responding to or don’t jump in the middle just to argue without even understanding what I’m talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 26 minutes ago, Justafan said: This is technically true but not really. He couldn’t win without support. He stepped down but it wasn’t because he read the room, it was because they starved him of support and made it clear he would either step aside a hero or go down the villain. He had no real choice. You can believe that if you want, but the fact is he chose to step down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: You can believe that if you want, but the fact is he chose to step down. Lol. Sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IsntLifeFunny Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, Justafan said: Lol. Sure. Go ahead and tell me how that isn't correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 These are all facts in my opinion. He did ultimately choose to not accept the nomination but he wouldn’t have stepped down sans pressure from these people. It’s good that they got him to step down and it’s good that he chose to step down. It’s literally just insincere Trumpers complaining about it lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 15 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Go ahead and tell me how that isn't correct. I already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 There’s probably more evidence to suggest Biden is in a coma/dying/already dead than he nobly and willingly stepped aside for Kamala lol. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 9 minutes ago, Titans279 said: These are all facts in my opinion. He did ultimately choose to not accept the nomination but he wouldn’t have stepped down sans pressure from these people. It’s good that they got him to step down and it’s good that he chose to step down. It’s literally just insincere Trumpers complaining about it lol What are you talking about? As far as I can tell, Trumpers wanted Biden to stick around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, Justafan said: What are you talking about? As far as I can tell, Trumpers wanted Biden to stick around? 3 hours ago, Mercalius said: I’ve warned about the optics of how this played out. It won’t bother many on the left even though it sets a dangerous precedent. But that’s a long term issue you’ll have to deal with the ramifications of down the road. In the immediate future, some people can see it for what it is in real time, and regardless of the other candidate - are livid that their rights as voters were just circumvented. Dave Portnoy isn’t a genius. He’s not a political expert. But he’s not wrong and gives a very good summary of why folks should be livid about this. Even if you enjoy the end result and Harris ends up somehow winning. The means that got you there are pretty grimy. Justafan, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) ^Several Trumpers here have posted similar thoughts and various Republicans have made similar posts on social media etc expressing the same sentiments. Hard for me to take the concerns seriously when they're coming from people who A. said Biden had dementia and B. all hate Democrats already Edited July 23, 2024 by Titans279 CreepingDeath, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 Just now, Titans279 said: ^Several Trumpers here have posted similar thoughts and various Republicans have made similar posts on social media etc expressing the same sentiments. I didn’t see the above post. I was confused. My bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted July 23, 2024 Report Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Titans279 said: ^Several Trumpers here have posted similar thoughts and various Republicans have made similar posts on social media etc expressing the same sentiments. Hard for me to take the concerns seriously when they're coming from people who A. said Biden had dementia and B. all hate Democrats already Believe it or not, I get that. It’s low hanging fruit for Republicans to gripe about right now. But it doesn’t make it wrong. Again, in the short term you may not care if it somehow leads to a victory in 2024. But beyond? You may look back at this move, and your party’s overall acceptance of it without pushback, as a very harmful thing in the long run. Hell, Obama still hasn’t endorsed her has he? His initial tweet after many others already bent the knee suggested a more primary-type situation to figure out the best candidate. Edited July 23, 2024 by Mercalius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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