titanruss Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 (edited) 50 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: .... No, he wasn't playing good ima dumb motherfucker. 2 hours ago, titanruss said: Levis was fine. He had 2 bad passes he threw as he was getting hit... one of which could have been caught. He threw another off-target one to Chig that could also have been caught. I dont remember the 4th incompletion. He didnt turn the ball over unless you want to blame him for the centers bad snap...... Who is making up stuff? Oh.. my bad... 4 LTs Lol. Edited November 20 by titanruss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 On the Chig play, he threw it a tick late and off target from where the hole in the zone was. I posted his stats so far but Levis is horrible in the intermediate passing game. Also where most of his near picks are coming from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 4 minutes ago, titanruss said: Who is making up stuff? Oh.. my bad... 4 LTs Lol. Aside from the near picks and non production on offense, Levis played "fine" until it was 27-0.! And yes citing "5 LT's" in the context of reality is ridiculous. Duncan played 3 snaps at LT and Dillard, NPF, and Radunz are all bad at LT.....This isn't they lost Lewan and went to Daley, which was the very clear point you were trying to make. Moron. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 41 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Aside from the near picks and non production on offense, Levis played "fine" until it was 27-0.! And yes citing "5 LT's" in the context of reality is ridiculous. Duncan played 3 snaps at LT and Dillard, NPF, and Radunz are all bad at LT.....This isn't they lost Lewan and went to Daley, which was the very clear point you were trying to make. Yes they are all bad.. but as a whole they are worse than before - which is the entire point. That is very very much not even close to the point I'm trying to make. Not sure how you get these inferences or only think in such extremes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Levis looks just like the Levis I saw in the 2022 tape at Kentucky. That's both a positive and a negative. I offer no more analysis than that I feel bad for the poor SOB. He's getting his ass kicked every Sunday. Lars, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Just now, Mythos27 said: Levis looks just like the Levis I saw in the 2022 tape at Kentucky. That's both a positive and a negative. I offer no more analysis than that I feel bad for the poor SOB. He's getting his ass kicked every Sunday. He's a tough guy but you can't take those kind of hits and not get hurt. That shot he took on the roughing the passer one was pretty brutal. That said, I thought the call there wasn't obvious. Good thing since the next play was the TD pass instead of punting. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: He's a tough guy but you can't take those kind of hits and not get hurt. That shot he took on the roughing the passer one was pretty brutal. That said, I thought the call there wasn't obvious. Good thing since the next play was the TD pass instead of punting. I've long said that I don't believe QBs can be "ruined" mentally but they sure as hell can get broken physically. It's only a matter of time with Levis. pat, and rns90 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 He’s eventually going to get hurt and miss time. No qb can absorb this type of weekly punishment. Although it would be kind of ironic and funny if both qbs ended up getting ankle injuries due to the shitty OL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, titanruss said: Yes they are all bad.. but as a whole they are worse than before - which is the entire point. That is very very much not even close to the point I'm trying to make. Not sure how you get these inferences or only think in such extremes. You weren't making a point. You were trying to make excuses when the caliber of player thrown out there was essentially the same caliber of guy. This isn't the same contextually as say 2022 when Lewan, at that point a solid to good LT, went down for the year, and Daley came in.... As for OL play overall, the rise in pressure is because teams are blitzing Levis more....(41.3% vs 25.5% w/Tannehill) to leverage his ability to adjust. Not shocking, of course, that Levis has a 48 grade, 4.4 YPA, and 75 passer rating when blitzed whereas Tannehill has a 78.2 grade, 9.9 YPA, and 93.3 passer rating...... Now turn around so you get can some ass to mouth action bitch. Edited November 20 by BudsOilers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Levis was reckless with his body when scrambling at Kentucky and held up pretty well, but QB injuries happen in the pocket I will say Levis should’ve done a better job not taking a hit a couple times titanruss, IsntLifeFunny, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: You weren't making a point. You were trying to make excuses when the caliber of player thrown out there was essentially the same caliber of guy. This isn't the same contextually as say 2022 when Lewan, at that point a solid to good LT, went down for the year, and Daley came in.... As for OL play overall, the rise in pressure is because teams are blitzing Levis more....(41.3% vs 25.5% w/Tannehill) to leverage his ability to adjust. Not shocking, of course, that Levis has a 48 grade, 4.4 YPA, and 75 passer rating when blitzed whereas Tannehill has a 78.2 grade, 9/9 YPA, and 93.3 passer rating...... Now turn around so you get can some ass to mouth action bitch. Bud, I don't need to make excuses for a rookie that is scoring TDs at a much higher clip and turning the ball over much less. Projected to 6 games he's headed for 9 TDs and 3 ints. Compare that with a 35 year old vet who had 2/6 over 6 games while playing 2-3 bottom level defenses... Making excuses is trying to say the extremely less productive guy was better while acting like all variables were the same when they arent. Making excuses would be saying it's his 4th start while missing half of camp and getting no reps... and I still know that almost every stat you can find puts them right in line with each other except the most important ones - SCORING TDS AND NOT THROWING INTS. Great! Tannehill was better at throwing while blitzed! So what? Find the minutia.. keep on. Now take out the blitz plays and compare the rest. The bargaining is real for you. The end all be all is Tannehill couldnt throw TD passes and turned the ball over a shit ton - which is wayyyyyyymore important. Edited November 20 by titanruss BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 24 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: Levis was reckless with his body when scrambling at Kentucky and held up pretty well, but QB injuries happen in the pocket I will say Levis should’ve done a better job not taking a hit a couple times Tannehill taking hits is what made him great! But yes, avoiding hits is ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 6 minutes ago, titanruss said: Bud, I don't need to make excuses for a rookie that is scoring TDs at a much higher clip and turning the ball over much less. Projected to 6 games he's headed for 9 TDs and 3 ints. Compare that with a 35 year old vet who had 2/6 over 6 games while playing 2-3 bottom level defenses... Making excuses is trying to say the extremely less productive guy was better while acting like all variables were the same when they arent. Making excuses would be saying it's his 4th start while missing half of camp and getting no reps... and I still know that almost every stat you can find puts them right in line with each other except the most important ones - SCORING TDS AND NOT THROWING INTS. Great! Tannehill was better at throwing while blitzed! So what? Find the minutia.. keep on. Now take out the blitz plays and compare the rest. The bargaining is real for you. The end all be all is Tannehill couldnt throw TD passes and turned the ball over a shit ton - which is wayyyyyyymore important. Yet you were making excuses or you would not have brought it up. And despite that "impressive" 6 TD to 2 INT stat line, the team is averaging 16 PPG, down from before. Of course, anyone who actually understands what they watching understands the context of this stuff - Levis gets a couple of garbage scores whereas Tannehill throws a garbage pick in a 24 point win on a deep shot or has an INT on a 3rd and long pass with 30 seconds left down 7 at his own 30 with no timeouts..... As for the blitzing info, it explains why the pressure is higher dumb fuck. It's also not going away until Levis shows he's capable of beating it. So I'd expect every team to come after him until then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 14 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Yet you were making excuses or you would not have brought it up. And despite that "impressive" 6 TD to 2 INT stat line, the team is averaging 16 PPG, down from before. Of course, anyone who actually understands what they watching understands the context of this stuff - Levis gets a couple of garbage scores whereas Tannehill throws a garbage pick in a 24 point win on a deep shot or has an INT on a 3rd and long pass with 30 seconds left down 7 at his own 30 with no timeouts..... As for the blitzing info, it explains why the pressure is higher dumb fuck. It's also not going away until Levis shows he's capable of beating it. So I'd expect every team to come after him until then. Nope... just trying to equalize the stats reasonably for comparison. Thats all I ever do. The QB cant help if a FG is made or not. If its made. The point comparison is even closer. QB cant help that the D he faced were more difficult. Thats why I averaged them out. A QB shouldnt get credit for stats he wasnt a part of. Your assumptions of posters intentions are always negative... yet you are the only person on here I've seen who has said they will argue disengenuously or lie just to win or make someone look bad. I dont care to deal in that world. You can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 1 minute ago, titanruss said: Nope... just trying to equalize the stats reasonably for comparison. Thats all I ever do. The QB cant help if a FG is made or not. If its made. The point comparison is even closer. QB cant help that the D he faced were more difficult. Thats why I averaged them out. A QB shouldnt get credit for stats he wasnt a part of. Your assumptions of posters intentions are always negative... yet you are the only person on here I've seen who has said they will argue disengenuously or lie just to win or make someone look bad. I dont care to deal in that world. You can. No. You've been caught in too many lies over the years to get any benefit of doubt here. You did the same BS with Mariota and I correctly smashed you back then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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