freakingeek Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 5 out of the last 8 games are against division opponents currently ahead of us in the standings with 5 of those 8 being home games. Not looking too good for us right now but not out of the realm of possibilities to make a run. The AFC is stumbling this year with the exceptions of KC and Baltimore. We've played pretty well at home. titanruss, and titanskick8851 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SleepingTitan Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 Just win 1 game against each of them for our mental health charleytolar, Bluth, CreepingDeath, and 7 others 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starkiller Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 9 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said: Just win 1 game against each of them for our mental health High draft picks are good for mental health… DCTitan, Somedude, Jamalisms, and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 Another week, another shuffled Offensive Line. Who will start at left tackle and how will they do on the Dillard/Daley scale. Thrill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 Blowout incoming. Alcibiades, No1TitansFan, Justafan, and 3 others 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tex in a Can Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 Gone are the days when Vrabel used to make soup out of rocks and water. He used to get the most out of guys off the street to play defense. He turned couch potato Foreman into Henry 1.5. He beat Houston with his 3rd string LT and backup QB by introducing the NFL to the Henry wildcat. Now he won't go for it on 4-1 when trailing. IsntLifeFunny, freakingeek, Smokes, and 3 others 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 It would be good if the thread pinner/unpinner/mergerer and ban thereatener would pin this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 39 minutes ago, Starkiller said: High draft picks are good for mental health… Because that worked out so well under the prior GM, right? Ran seemed to do ok in his first draft (so far - jury is still out), but if Vrabel has influence on it…it’s unlikely to be a difference maker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, Aramis said: Because that worked out so well under the prior GM, right? Ran seemed to do ok in his first draft (so far - jury is still out), but if Vrabel has influence on it…it’s unlikely to be a difference maker. I don’t know, it seems like Ran has made some good picks so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 Just now, Starkiller said: I don’t know, it seems like Ran has made some good picks so far True, but the influence of Vrabel is more my concern. SleepingTitan, freakingeek, and DCTitan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, Tex in a Can said: Gone are the days when Vrabel used to make soup out of rocks and water. He used to get the most out of guys off the street to play defense. He turned couch potato Foreman into Henry 1.5. He beat Houston with his 3rd string LT and backup QB by introducing the NFL to the Henry wildcat. Now he won't go for it on 4-1 when trailing. Right. And this is what makes me ask; Did Vrabel suddenly forget how to coach or is the talent level so low he can't "make soup" anymore. J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Most of us said that the level of the roster was too low to expect Tannehill to win with. We're saying the same thing about Levis now. How does it make sense to expect Vrabel to win with it? J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Are there things Vrabel is doing that are worthy of criticism? Hell yeah. But I don't think he's at the root of the problem nor do I think a shiny new, offensive minded HC will be the solution either save for a substantial talent infusion which is necessary anyways. prometheus, DCTitan, Number9, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 24 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Right. And this is what makes me ask; Did Vrabel suddenly forget how to coach or is the talent level so low he can't "make soup" anymore. J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Most of us said that the level of the roster was too low to expect Tannehill to win with. We're saying the same thing about Levis now. How does it make sense to expect Vrabel to win with it? J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Are there things Vrabel is doing that are worthy of criticism? Hell yeah. But I don't think he's at the root of the problem nor do I think a shiny new, offensive minded HC will be the solution either save for a substantial talent infusion which is necessary anyways. I'd settle for a bit of moxy and gumption. titanruss, and charleytolar 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 25 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Right. And this is what makes me ask; Did Vrabel suddenly forget how to coach or is the talent level so low he can't "make soup" anymore. J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Most of us said that the level of the roster was too low to expect Tannehill to win with. We're saying the same thing about Levis now. How does it make sense to expect Vrabel to win with it? J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Are there things Vrabel is doing that are worthy of criticism? Hell yeah. But I don't think he's at the root of the problem nor do I think a shiny new, offensive minded HC will be the solution either save for a substantial talent infusion which is necessary anyways. Vrabel issue isn't the talent. Its his decisions around staff and his handling of the OL in particular plus his archaic offensive philosophy. woolfolksunclesuncle, titanskick8851, charleytolar, and 13 others 12 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BudsOilers Posted November 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14 50 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Right. And this is what makes me ask; Did Vrabel suddenly forget how to coach or is the talent level so low he can't "make soup" anymore. J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Most of us said that the level of the roster was too low to expect Tannehill to win with. We're saying the same thing about Levis now. How does it make sense to expect Vrabel to win with it? J-Rob got fired in large part because the roster is a disaster. Are there things Vrabel is doing that are worthy of criticism? Hell yeah. But I don't think he's at the root of the problem nor do I think a shiny new, offensive minded HC will be the solution either save for a substantial talent infusion which is necessary anyways. Vrabel owns the OL issues and conflicted down shit that puts said OL in it's most vulnerable state 60% of the time. Quiver Chins fucked up plenty don't get me wrong but under Vrabel/Carthon they gave Dillard a 30 M contract, drafted Skoronski, signed Bunskill, and signed Hubbard. Didn't sign Fant for cents on the dollar. Have to use TE's and RB's to help pass block and even then it stinks. It got Tannehill hurt and now they are getting Levis hit at an astronomical rate. 28th in points despite a top 10 scoring defense, flawed and all. He lost me when he jizzed about NPF at LT because he pushed piles despite allowing 4 pressures/2 sacks in 22 snaps at LT. Fuck him. TitanPoke, titanskick8851, smokeater, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 28 minutes ago, oldschool said: Vrabel issue isn't the talent. Its his decisions around staff and his handling of the OL in particular plus his archaic offensive philosophy. I agree that Vrabel and co haven't made good decisions on the OL but in all honesty the line is likely fucked regardless of the choices he makes because it lacks TALENT. Sure, we all want Sko to start at LT but let's not kid ourselves, the most likely outcome is that he sucks too. He finally made the move everyone has been clamoring for with Radunz and while he wasn't as bad as the other scrubs but he sucked too. We can be upset by his process but as the other options on the OL get their shot and proceed to suck, it becomes more understandable how Vrabel watched these guys play and thought "there is no way I can play this guy, he sucks". As far as the offensive philosophy; weren't we all pretty pleased with the changes they were implementing on offense? Since most will pretend they didn't do the same; I'll go ahead and say that I was very pleased with them. What happened there is that as the year went on, it became very clear that we could not protect the QB and slowly reverted back to our same old same old. Now, I don't agree with that choice given it won't make us any better but I understand why the made the decision and the reason why is because we don't have the talent to run the kind of offense that we all wish they would. It always comes back to talent. The staff is hamstrung by these guys moreso than the other way around. If we tried to run the offense Houston is running Levis would be on a stretcher by half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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