BudsOilers Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 9 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: Levis is a long way from having Tannys ability to fit balls into windows that shouldn't be there Which is scary in terms of the real ceiling for Levis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: The two guys are absolutely close - the difference is Levis making some ill advised TWP passes that Tannehill won't take.......And the pressure rates are pretty horrid for both - 38.6% for Tannehill and 46.6% for Levis. Not sure if the uptick is from Hubbard being out for a couple of games and watching NPF fuck up for a while or whether it's the cost of doing business with a rookie QB calling protection as opposed to a veteran. Could be a little of both. As for why they made the switch? It's about having Levis ready in theory for 2024 since they know 2023 is toast.....Tannehill absolutely gives them the best chance to win games right now but that's not the top priority any more. Fair enough, I don't think that's really Vrabels MO and he needs to win games now to keep his job. I also can't see anyone entertaining Tannehill starting for them in 2024. I think his time as a starter is done freakingeek 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: Which is scary in terms of the real ceiling for Levis. Well in fairness I don't think I can name more than maybe 3 or 4 QBs in the last 5 years who have the ability Tannehill did in that area They absolutely need better receivers and a better scheme for Levis to be successful along with a functioning OL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 1 minute ago, IrishTitansFan said: Fair enough, I don't think that's really Vrabels MO and he needs to win games now to keep his job. I also can't see anyone entertaining Tannehill starting for them in 2024. I think his time as a starter is done IDK what to tell you if you honestly think Levis gives them a better chance to win games right now. I also think it's obvious that the QB switch was not Vrabel's alone. As for Tannehill 2024, I'd bet he goes to ATL and starts there if Arthur survives. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 3 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: Well in fairness I don't think I can name more than maybe 3 or 4 QBs in the last 5 years who have the ability Tannehill did in that area They absolutely need better receivers and a better scheme for Levis to be successful along with a functioning OL Slowik 2024! titanskick8851, and IrishTitansFan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: IDK what to tell you if you honestly think Levis gives them a better chance to win games right now. I also think it's obvious that the QB switch was not Vrabel's alone. As for Tannehill 2024, I'd bet he goes to ATL and starts there if Arthur survives. I would lean Tannehill of course but I meant why the decision was made in the first place, my gut was they were done with him and wanted a spark. I think if Levis were played like the Bucs game vs ATL then Tannehill would be playing next game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 Even if he is technically able to fully practice and play, Tannehill's mobility still woudn't be near 100% which is asking for a disaster with this OL. We saw this movie already last year; add in that he's not in their long term plans and it's a no brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 On 11/15/2023 at 10:03 AM, BudsOilers said: More from Vrabel is a retard.....let's get guys who can run block! Hire Slowik.... I was speaking with a buddy of mine tonight who's a PSL holder. He's also an avid UT fan. He talked about the direct juxtaposition between the two teams. UT has a good football team and their QB, Milton, is terrible and it's fucking everything up. Titans have a garbage line and the switch of QBs shows it was never the QBs fault in the first place. It was nice to hear someone who doesn't jump into all this stuff like we do understand this fact. I wanted the change because it was time and Tannehill with limited mobility was going to just keep getting killed out there under Vrabel. I said the same in the offseason where I wanted Tannehill and Henry traded. The results are very obvious. Both QBs, and even Willis, have been getting killed because of the personnel, personnel choices, and scheme. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 (edited) Tanny is washed, it’s okay he had a great run Edited November 19 by TheChosenTitan titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 On 11/16/2023 at 12:03 AM, BudsOilers said: More from Vrabel is a retard.....let's get guys who can run block! Hire Slowik.... Doesn't this show that Stroud is throwing from a clean pocket just as infrequently as Tannehill? Like our QBs, Stroud at the top of the league in Air Yards/attempt and bottom of it in expected completion %. He's just been ridiculously good. I'm not sure how much success can actually be attributed to the OC freakingeek, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 10 hours ago, TerryBoats said: Doesn't this show that Stroud is throwing from a clean pocket just as infrequently as Tannehill? Like our QBs, Stroud at the top of the league in Air Yards/attempt and bottom of it in expected completion %. He's just been ridiculously good. I'm not sure how much success can actually be attributed to the OC Have you watched any of their games? Stroud has been really good, but their OC has that offense fine tuned with WRs running open all over the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 6 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Have you watched any of their games? Stroud has been really good, but their OC has that offense fine tuned with WRs running open all over the field. He has one of the lowest expected completion %s in the league. I've seen the open receivers. But He's required to make tougher throws on average much more often than Mahomes, Tua, Purdy, and others who we associate with having good offensive coaches. IrishTitansFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 1 minute ago, TerryBoats said: He has one of the lowest expected completion %s in the league. I've seen the open receivers. But He's required to make tougher throws on average much more often than Mahomes, Tua, Purdy, and others who we associate with having good offensive coaches. I'd have to understand the metrics better I guess. What do they account for and are they PFF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 14 hours ago, TerryBoats said: He has one of the lowest expected completion %s in the league. I've seen the open receivers. But He's required to make tougher throws on average much more often than Mahomes, Tua, Purdy, and others who we associate with having good offensive coaches. Great QBs have a funny habit of making offensive playcallers look good You'd still take your chances on a Shanny disciple though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 22 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I'd have to understand the metrics better I guess. What do they account for and are they PFF? The expected completion % is legit. It's calculated by Next Gen Stats using information captured by tracking devices in players' equipment, in the balls, in the field, in stadium, etc. Expected completion % is determined using receiver separation, distance of the throw, etc. on each play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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