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I'll say it. Levis should start this week.


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On 11/4/2023 at 1:10 PM, freakingeek said:

Vrabel has stated he's not ready to name a starter for next week's game. It's obvious Tannehill is not in the Titans plans for 2024. It's obvious that Levis has the tools to be a QB in the NFL. Given our current record and playoff chances, is there any earthly reason Levis should not start getting the reps as QB#1? For the long term health of the franchise this seems like a no brainer to me. Not to mention that the offense looked capable of competing despite a few rookie mistakes Levis made in his first two starts and poor pass protection.

Save him for what?

This week??  He needs to start every week.  

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Vrabel is doing what a good coach does: not giving the next opponent any advantage by unnecessarily announcing a starter early, keeping a confident rookie humble so he doesn't even think about letting

Tannehill was 3rd highest in this category prior to Levis starting.  It's just how the offense is designed.  

I'll say it: Levis has me interested in purchasing PSL's at the new stadium. If the story is true that this was who AAS wanted in the 2nd round, then she gets it that they have to sell tickets and sea

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I would have no issue with Tannehill coming back to start.  

the notion that a player needs snaps to develop is simply an opinion that some hold...others feel a player can sit and develop by watching for a year and learning from a vet.  The correct path is most likely decided by the individual player and whats best for them.

It seems like Levis did develop some by watching and doing what he could on the side.   Now you got some actual film tape from real games so sift thru and learn from.

 

I would go back to Tannehill and if the season is lost at some point which it probably will be then I would give Levis the last couple games to carry him into the off-season with a good base to learn from.

 

the single worst thing that could happen is for Levis to go down with a significant injury and have to go from developing to rehabbing. I would rather he be a full go for the off season (where I think he can really work on mechanics) and also be a full go for the pre-season.

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The big question they have to answer honestly, which I don't know they are capable of, is whether they can protect the QB's well enough to even be able to evaluate them fairly.

 

You see clips of Dillard and NPF getting destroyed from the snap and it doesn't matter whether it's Levis, Tannehill, or Willis for that matter.  You're fucked.

 

To me, the easiest way for Vrabel to get fired is to throw Levis out there with shitty pass protection and play calling to expose this and see him get seriously injured to impact 2024.  

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Tyler Rowland can be really annoying and he's actually wrong here - this was a first down play right before half (right before the bad Spears pass).....but he's correct and Vrabel said this on Friday too - he made a bad decision to force it to DHop rather than go to the correct read.  Both this play and the Spears one should have been easy TD passes.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Tyler Rowland can be really annoying and he's actually wrong here - this was a first down play right before half (right before the bad Spears pass).....but he's correct and Vrabel said this on Friday too - he made a bad decision to force it to DHop rather than go to the correct read.  Both this play and the Spears one should have been easy TD passes.

 

 

 

 


Also the 4th and 4 where Phillips came open but Levis went deep to Burks.

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Levis made some bad decisions sure. Does his upside and overall ability make him the better quarterback *today*? 

 

I believe the answer is yes. He can make throws Tannehill can't. He has the mobility to survive behind our offensive line. We put Tannehill out there and he gets killed, week in and week out. He might not make as many bad decisions as Levis, but he won't make as many plays. Teams can't scheme around Henry knowing Hopkins won't even be a factor. 

 

I believe Levis starting is not about development, it is about putting the person who helps us win on the field. I will always love Ryan Tannehill, but it's Mayo Manning's turn. 

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I think Tannehill gives them the best chance to win right now because of the decision making and completely hyperbole about the skill sets of the two guys.   Aside from the NWI throw vs ATL, Levis hasn't made a throw that Tannehill also can't make.  I'd also say the escapability of Levis really hasn't shown itself to be valid.  

 

Now I absolutely think Levis playing now gives them the best chance to win in 2024 - UNLESS the dumb fuck coaches getting him killed out there because of the play calling and incompetent mismanagement of the OL.  Which is pretty likely unless they pull their head out of their ass and stop trotting Dillard and NPF scrubs out there because they run block better.

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

I think Tannehill gives them the best chance to win right now because of the decision making and completely hyperbole about the skill sets of the two guys.   Aside from the NWI throw vs ATL, Levis hasn't made a throw that Tannehill also can't make.  I'd also say the escapability of Levis really hasn't shown itself to be valid.  

 

Now I absolutely think Levis playing now gives them the best chance to win in 2024 - UNLESS the dumb fuck coaches getting him killed out there because of the play calling and incompetent mismanagement of the OL.  Which is pretty likely unless they pull their head out of their ass and stop trotting Dillard and NPF scrubs out there because they run block better.

 

 

 

 

 

We must have been watching different games all season. We're talking about 2tds, 6 ints, 19 sacks. 

 

Levis has more movement to his game and is capable of making some insanely effortless throws. His arm strength is on a different level. 

 

I think Levis gives us at least the threat of juice, of a spark, of big games. Tannehill's ceiling at this point is 23 to 17 squeaker. 

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Most fans probably think that Levis should start the entire rest of the year , myself included.  But Vrabel who needs to win games may see it differently.  He sees those misses/issues with Levis as plays that determine a win/loss and that Tannehill may hit those throws.

 

So if he goes back to him as a starter, that’s probably why.

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2 minutes ago, Bink said:

 

We must have been watching different games all season. We're talking about 2tds, 6 ints, 19 sacks. 

 

Levis has more movement to his game and is capable of making some insanely effortless throws. His arm strength is on a different level. 

 

I think Levis gives us at least the threat of juice, of a spark, of big games. Tannehill's ceiling at this point is 23 to 17 squeaker. 

Well - Levis produced a game at home similar to what Tannehill did vs LAC and CIN.  Levis produced a game vs Steelers that was similar to IND, BAL, and NO.....

 

Levis has a cannon arm yes but it's also prone to inconsistent ball placement.  Also for being more mobile, we really haven't seen him escaping pressure.  There was one play last week where he got it out to Henry on a play where Tannehill would have been sacked.  Of course, he also had another play where he tried a fucking lateral that was a negative loss but his knee was already down....

 

Levis makes some wow plays Tannehill doesn't.  Tannehill makes routine plays that Levis won't. 

 

Now if Levis plays, he better start executing the offense better with more experience.  If, of course, they can avoid him getting injured.   

 

 

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Tannehill is bottom 5 at getting the ball out under pressure. He may not be at fault for the pressure but when it comes he ain’t getting the ball out and he ain’t extending plays

 

His footwork is simply too slow now, as is his release. It’s clear as day to anyone who is seeing it with clear eyes

 

And no, it’s not because of quick pressure (the other side of this is they have a ton of extra blockers in)

 

 

 

 

 

Tannehill is the much better QB in a clean pocket still IMO. He’s a better decision maker and thrower. Levis can navigate a dirty pocket a lot better but the throws may be off


It depends what Vrabel is valuing more

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25 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Well - Levis produced a game at home similar to what Tannehill did vs LAC and CIN.  Levis produced a game vs Steelers that was similar to IND, BAL, and NO.....

 

Levis has a cannon arm yes but it's also prone to inconsistent ball placement.  Also for being more mobile, we really haven't seen him escaping pressure.  There was one play last week where he got it out to Henry on a play where Tannehill would have been sacked.  Of course, he also had another play where he tried a fucking lateral that was a negative loss but his knee was already down....

 

Levis makes some wow plays Tannehill doesn't.  Tannehill makes routine plays that Levis won't. 

 

Now if Levis plays, he better start executing the offense better with more experience.  If, of course, they can avoid him getting injured.   

 

 

Levis has played 2 NFL games you fucking imbecile. 

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