BudsOilers Posted November 19 Author Report Share Posted November 19 On the flip side, when he has time he has shown promise of things to build on. IsntLifeFunny, TerryBoats, Justafan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 @BudsOilers busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The problem is it's hard to judge with the pass pro but he's also showing a lot of the flaws that were discussed predraft Hate to do this but Atlanta didn’t have his tendencies on tape and they weren’t strong at pass rushing. That being said, he has shown skills/attributes . I’m really not sure what he’ll ultimately develop into. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BudsOilers Posted November 19 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 19 1 minute ago, rns90 said: Hate to do this but Atlanta didn’t have his tendencies on tape and they weren’t strong at pass rushing. That being said, he has shown skills/attributes . I’m really not sure what he’ll ultimately develop into. All the more reason to pull the plug on Vrabel because he's incapable of developing a QB. And before the retards try to credit Vrabel for Tannehill, wrong....Tannehill saved Vrabel from getting fired years ago. IowaOiler, rns90, TitansPDO, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 5 hours ago, BudsOilers said: All the more reason to pull the plug on Vrabel because he's incapable of developing a QB. And before the retards try to credit Vrabel for Tannehill, wrong....Tannehill saved Vrabel from getting fired years ago. Bingo. TitansPDO, and rns90 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 titanruss, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 This is 100% the result of a mediocre OL that can't handle a hostile environment. OILERMAN, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Levis is coming across as a player that could become a solid NFL qb IF he gets a ton of the right kind of development. Meathead is coming across as a head coach who deep down hates that the qb position has to even exist. Good luck rook. TerryBoats, titanruss, BudsOilers, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Wake me up when we beat an actual good team at home. The gimpy-Burrow Bengals were the best team we saw at home. big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 On 11/12/2023 at 2:23 PM, BudsOilers said: I have to say the offense looks totally different after the QB change! some of us tried to tell you…. No, you all said the offense would collapse. It's literally been the same. The point in saying it would be the same was that the problem wasn't really the QB. Noting it could possibly be better is because Levis does add an element of pocket mobility Tannehill after the ankle sprains doesn't. This has basically held true. Levis offense is 2-3 and scoring 17 PPG. Tannehill offense was 2-4 scoring 17 PPG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 4 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Wake me up when we beat an actual good team at home. The gimpy-Burrow Bengals were the best team we saw at home. The offense still laid it to a pretty good Cincy D that day. The Chargers and Falcons wins scoring 27 and 28 are less impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: No, you all said the offense would collapse. It's literally been the same. The point in saying it would be the same was that the problem wasn't really the QB. Noting it could possibly be better is because Levis does add an element of pocket mobility Tannehill after the ankle sprains doesn't. This has basically held true. Levis offense is 2-3 and scoring 17 PPG. Tannehill offense was 2-4 scoring 17 PPG. No people were absolutely putting the offense issues on Tannehill. Including you. And of course it never was a QB issue and whatever mobility gain Levis brings is absolutely canceled out with the TWP plays due to lesser accuracy and decision making. And ys the offense has been worse overall than before. 17.3 in the first six; 16.2 in the last 5. Home: 27 w/RT; 22.5 w/Levis. Road: 12.5 w/RT; 12 w/Levis. And that's counting the offensive production after down 27 at Jax, which is skewed to say the least. 3rd down conversions down from 34% to 30%. RZ is the one area up after the change (50% vs 33%) but it comes with a caveat.....21 RZ trips in the first 6 games. Only 10 in the last 5. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: No people were absolutely putting the offense issues on Tannehill. Including you. And of course it never was a QB issue and whatever mobility gain Levis brings is absolutely canceled out with the TWP plays due to lesser accuracy and decision making. And ys the offense has been worse overall than before. 17.3 in the first six; 16.2 in the last 5. Home: 27 w/RT; 22.5 w/Levis. Road: 12.5 w/RT; 12 w/Levis. And that's counting the offensive production after down 27 at Jax, which is skewed to say the least. 3rd down conversions down from 34% to 30%. RZ is the one area up after the change (50% vs 33%) but it comes with a caveat.....21 RZ trips in the first 6 games. Only 10 in the last 5. Oh bullshit. I never put all of the offensive issues on Tannehill. I said he was playing poorly and getting murdered out there, which is a fact. His 70 QB rating and TD/INT ratio shows this. There's no need to rewrite history. Everyone with eyes saw the main problem was an OL that couldn't protect. And yes, Levis has been an upgrade in several areas. He doesn't have the pure accuracy, but he's been better by every statistical metric, which on this offense isn't saying much. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Remember when W/L was getting touted last week? Tannehill just wins more! Now Levis obviously wins more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Oh bullshit. I never put all of the offensive issues on Tannehill. I said he was playing poorly and getting murdered out there, which is a fact. His 70 QB rating and TD/INT ratio shows this. There's no need to rewrite history. Everyone with eyes saw the main problem was an OL that couldn't protect. And yes, Levis has been an upgrade in several areas. He doesn't have the pure accuracy, but he's been better by every statistical metric, which on this offense isn't saying much. Levis has been better by every statistical metric? No he hasn't.....the TD/INT piece enables the edge in Passer Rating and even that has context to it. PFF's grade has Tannehill a lot higher (72 vs 55.8). Not completion %. Not YPA. And let's not forget advanced metrics......On Target Throws; TWP throws, Big Time Throws, and the Titans had a higher drop % in Tannehill games.... If you think Tannehill was playing poorly outside of the NO game but think Levis is playing well, that's a pretty big confession that you have no idea what you're watching. Justafan, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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