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2 hours ago, scine09 said:

I've posted a lot less this offseason as it's basically more of the same in every thread but the one thing that's really getting me is the plan at kicker.  The team made a point this week to state that they're focusing on accuracy from 40-49 yards out and not 50 plus yards out.  Why?  That doesn't even make sense.  Teams like the Raiders and Bengals have kickers who were acquired cheaply who can make those kicks.  It helped the Bengals get to a Super Bowl.  If you replaced their kicker in 2021 with Randy Bullock you know what would have happened?  The Titans would have been playing the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game and the Bengals would not have.  And all it took was a 5th round pick to get him.  It's a huge weapon.  One the Titans have had basically never.  And it can win or lose games and honestly may have cost the team a game or two last season.  And then I log onto ESPN.com and see that the Jaguars signed Brandon McManus??? Where was Ran Carthon?  The Jaguars have a good kicker.  And they're trying to improve upon it by signing a veteran who has proven he can make those long kicks and in pressure situations.  And in the draft instead of drafting one of these bigtime kickers they go with a bunch of guys who will be lucky to even be with the franchise two or three years from now?

 

What exactly is the plan at kicker?  Go with a guy who in his one game with the organization looked incredibly overmatched?  Bring back Randy Bullock who is an adventure every time the kick is over 40 yards?  I just don't get it.  And for a team as limited offensively as the Titans are who will try and win games with a running game and defense, you need that weapon.  It can change outcomes of games.  As the Titans learned the hard way last year.  They continue to ignore it.  Very frustrating.

 

Sorry for the rant but when I saw that McManus signed with the Jaguars it prompted this.

Almost like both regimes feel like its a crap shoot, that draft capital shouldn't be used on it and that you hope to find someone who wins the job in camp... 🤷‍♂️

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I've posted a lot less this offseason as it's basically more of the same in every thread but the one thing that's really getting me is the plan at kicker.  The team made a point this week to state tha

Because Fat Randy was only 14/21 in that range over the past two years and they hardly even bothered trying deeper. When you're sub-standard, getting to standard is a reasonable goal. Just get it to w

Kickers aren't even real people.

2 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

Maybe they like Shudak?  He's got a leg and they did like him enough to put him on IR and bring him back this offseason.

Of course.  This is the most obvious answer, but it makes for a better post when you cry that the sky is falling...

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2 hours ago, Jamalisms said:

 

Because Fat Randy was only 14/21 in that range over the past two years and they hardly even bothered trying deeper. When you're sub-standard, getting to standard is a reasonable goal. Just get it to where kicking isn't an active weakness.

 

But I've seen nothing from ST, basically across them board, that suggests Craig is anything but Vrabel's buddy. I wouldn't look for good insight there.

It is odd that Craig was actually here with Mularkey first before Vrabel came on.  Obviously they could be great friends now but...

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1 minute ago, japan said:

Almost like both regimes feel like its a crap shoot, that draft capital shouldn't be used on it and that you hope to find someone who wins the job in camp... 🤷‍♂️

The track record of kicker draft picks panning out is similar to signing them as undrafted guys or signing them on their second or third stints.  Arguably the best kicker in the NFL for the last decade was UNDRAFTED....Tucker.

 

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/k

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1 minute ago, japan said:

It is odd that Craig was actually here with Mularkey first before Vrabel came on.  Obviously they could be great friends now but...

Too bad Dunning Kruger didn't bother to check this out before parroting a false narrative that Kuharsky and his fuck buddy Herndon push....Fucking asshat.

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40 minutes ago, japan said:

It is odd that Craig was actually here with Mularkey first before Vrabel came on.  Obviously they could be great friends now but...

 

Absent any other explanation, which certainly doesn't exist in the product on the field, when he arrived is irrelevant.

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5 hours ago, pat said:

There are some things that are exceptional about the Titans.  That focus on conditioning - we've seen the Titans outlast other teams on the field.

 

And then there's some things that are less exceptional.  Special teams is "special" for the Titans.  When everything goes right it doesn't really matter.  But in close games it's a weakness.

 

I'm with @scine09 on this one.

 

You think the Titans conditioning is exceptional?  Have you missed the last two years?

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It’s tough to actually come up with a reasonable answer because the stats obviously show it doesn’t really matter where you get the guy, you just gotta have a real competition 

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16 hours ago, japan said:

It is odd that Craig was actually here with Mularkey first before Vrabel came on.  Obviously they could be great friends now but...


Keeping the same coach is a sign that it’s not a priority.

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1 hour ago, Bongo59 said:

Week one last year cost TN the playoffs due to a missed FG.  In season where injuries killed us that one miss kept us out of the playoffs. 

They'd still have missed out at 8-9.  It didn't end up making a difference.  I think the bigger point is there were times when they'd pass on long field goals or even change their strategy because they didn't think that Bullock could make a 50 plus yard FG.  

 

I know Gostkowski was hot and cold but people forget that in September of the 2020 season he actually won Special Teams player of the month and the Minnesota game had one of the best games you'll ever see a kicker have.  I think he had five 50 plus yard FGs and they don't win if he misses any of them.  That's the kind of guy they need, someone they can rely on from deep.  Most of these guys can make the short kicks but the likes of Bullock or even Succop became question marks once it got to 50 plus.  Having that weapon can be a real factor, particularly on a team as offensively challenged as this one looks like it might be.

 

I actually like Bullock, I thought he did a good job coming in off the streets and hitting three game-winning kicks.  But he is what he is.  An accurate guy from short range who struggles when the distance gets into the 40s and especially the 50s.  

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12 hours ago, scine09 said:

They'd still have missed out at 8-9.  It didn't end up making a difference.  I think the bigger point is there were times when they'd pass on long field goals or even change their strategy because they didn't think that Bullock could make a 50 plus yard FG.  

 

I know Gostkowski was hot and cold but people forget that in September of the 2020 season he actually won Special Teams player of the month and the Minnesota game had one of the best games you'll ever see a kicker have.  I think he had five 50 plus yard FGs and they don't win if he misses any of them.  That's the kind of guy they need, someone they can rely on from deep.  Most of these guys can make the short kicks but the likes of Bullock or even Succop became question marks once it got to 50 plus.  Having that weapon can be a real factor, particularly on a team as offensively challenged as this one looks like it might be.

 

I actually like Bullock, I thought he did a good job coming in off the streets and hitting three game-winning kicks.  But he is what he is.  An accurate guy from short range who struggles when the distance gets into the 40s and especially the 50s.  

Gostkowski definitely unfairly maligned. Guy was great after the LS was released…

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8 hours ago, japan said:

Gostkowski definitely unfairly maligned. Guy was great after the LS was released…

He definitely struggled at some points but he had some big moments like that Minnesota game or the Jacksonville one the week before.  And in the second half of the season he was mostly money.

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Wyatt said Wolff has been perfect in two weeks of practice (16-16)

 

”Kicker Trey Wolff, an undrafted free agent from Texas Tech, has been impressive early. Wolff was a perfect 8-of-8 on his field goal attempts from 31, 33, 42, 39, 50, 33, 44 and 54 yards on Wednesday, and I had him 8-of-8 in last week's open OTA as well, although I will admit I was viewing from the side, and it was hard to tell on a few. But by my unofficial count, Wolff is 16-of-16 in the two open sessions. Kicker Caleb Shudak, meanwhile, didn't have an attempt today.”

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