Curious if anyone else is as concerned about our pass rush as I am?

[Lantern]

With the shakey CB play we have going into 2023-24. I do not understant why we did not try to address the pass rush. 

 

Landry coming off an ACL?  He is not going to be the savior of our pass rush. Even when healthy we needed another bookend, A healthy Landry is not going to solve anything. We still need more.  Autry is a better interior lineman. 

 

Sure we have Tart, Autry, and Big Jeff.....but that guy we let walk, the injury prone Bud Dupree, well when he played we were a better team and actually got pressure on the quarterback. So we did not even try to address this.  For a team relying on a stout defense, we sure are trusting a lot in interior defensive pressure. 

 

Every Titans team that had a legit chance to contend has had a legit pass rush. Last year in games without Dupree playing, quaterbacks stood there with loads of time picking us a part. 

 

Hard to feel good about our pass rush. 

 

 

Edited May 17 by Lantern

[AussieTitanFan08]

lol at the mythical force multiplier being a great loss the rest of the NFL told Dupree what they thought of him when he could only secure a 1yr $3 million deal from the Falcons in the second wave of free agency.

 

 

[Lantern]

4 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

lol at the mythical force multiplier being a great loss the rest of the NFL told Dupree what they thought of him when he could only secure a 1yr $3 million deal from the Falcons in the second wave of free agency.

 

 

And yet the Titans pass rush was better with him.  I respect your knowledge, know you watch every week. Do you really feel good about this current teams ability to get after the QB?  Because I do not. 

Edited May 17 by Lantern

[AussieTitanFan08]

1 minute ago, Lantern said:

And yet the Titans pass rush was better with him. 

 

In 2021 the pass rush dipped when Landry was limited with his hamstring injury not anything to do with Dupree, that contract JRob handed Dupree was absolutely horrific and it was zero surprise he was cut immediately when the contract allowed.

[Lantern]

Sure the contract was horrible, But I am talking about results. This team has no reliable outside pass rush. Landry coming off an ACL cannot do it by himself.

 

In the few games Dupree was "healthy" this team got pressure. 

 

When Landry went down with hamstring issues in 2021 who did we have left? 

 

Same old problem we will have this year. 

 

 

Edited May 17 by Lantern

[AussieTitanFan08]

Just now, Lantern said:

Sure the contract was horrible, But I am talking about results. This team has no reliable outside pass rush. Landry coming off an ACL cannot do it by himself.

 

Did I miss something did Denico Autry retire and Arden Key not sign a 3yr contract during FA.

 

Ultimately this team had much bigger issues to deal with offensively this offseason and are already paying 4 members of the DL good money (SImmons/Landry/Autry/Key) and simply doesn't have the resources to pump anymore into the position this year. 

[Lantern]

You did not miss anything. You make a good point. We did sign a guy, Key. 

 

But when the Titans cannot pressure the opposing teams QB this year you will remember this thread. 

 

You have to make QB pressure a priority, sure we have some quality there. But not to the point where we can rely on it winning games. If you are going to put your chips all in on defensive stops you cannot ignore pass rush. 

 

Are you really relying on Key and Landry coming off an ACL?  I hope you are right, and Key (A Jags castoff, with his 17 starts a 4.5 sacks) is the "key" to actual success.

 

BTW Dupree with half the starts had 4 sacks last year, Key who started every game had .5 more. 

Edited May 17 by Lantern

[AussieTitanFan08]

38 minutes ago, Lantern said:

You did not miss anything.

 

But when the Titans cannot pressure the opposing teams QB this year you will remember this thread. 

 

You have to make QB pressure a priority, sure we have some quality there. But not to the point where we can rely on it winning games. If you are going to put you chips all in on deffensive stops you cannot ignore pass rush. 

 

Offensive scoring is what wins Super Bowls the way the NFL is played and officiated now not dominant defense, there was a stat floating around just after the Super Bowl that was something like the last 7 Super Bowl Champions have averaged 27.1 pts a game or more during the regular season.

 

If this team fails this year it will be down to lack of offensive firepower not lack of pass rush.

Edited May 17 by AussieTitanFan08

[Lantern]

2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Offensive scoring is what wins Super Bowls the way the NFL is played and officiated now not dominant defense, there was a stat floating around just after the Super Bowl that was something like the last 8 Super Bowl Champions have averaged 27.1 pts a game or more during the regular season.

 

If this team fails this year it will be down to lack of offensive firepower not lack of pass rush.

I hope you are right. Too bad this team was built to win playing tight defense. . 

Edited May 17 by Lantern

[AussieTitanFan08]

5 minutes ago, Lantern said:

Too bad this team was built to win playing tight defense. . 

 

This outdated philosophy is a much greater concern than worrying about not having enough pass rushers.

[IrishTitansFan]

1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

lol at the mythical force multiplier being a great loss the rest of the NFL told Dupree what they thought of him when he could only secure a 1yr $3 million deal from the Falcons in the second wave of free agency.

 

 

Ignoring that the Titans played much better with Dupree on the field than with Weaver is ignoring the numbers and your eyes. He deserved to be cut but that doesn't change that

[AussieTitanFan08]

5 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said:

Ignoring that the Titans played much better with Dupree on the field than with Weaver is ignoring the numbers and your eyes. He deserved to be cut but that doesn't change that

 

Dupree was vastly overrated by many here and the loss of Landry in 2022 was way more significant than the time Dupree missed.

Edited May 17 by AussieTitanFan08

[Starkiller]

Losing Landry was a big deal but things were still looking good defensively until Simmons and Autry got hurt. 
 

If everyone up front is healthy I still like the D. 

Edited May 17 by Starkiller

[AussieTitanFan08]

3 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Losing Landry was a big deal but things were still looking good defensively until Simmons and Autry got hurt. 
 

If everyone up front is healthy I still like the D. 

 

I'm hoping Chris Harris can improve this CB group to better reflect the massive amount of draft capital that has been pumped into the position, not sure Farley will ever amount to anything but Fulton/Murphy-Bunting/McCreary can be a decent starting trio.

[Number9]

Okay!     This is it!  

 

I open this thread thinking it is some Colts fan scared of our pass rush, or maybe a Texans fan worried about what we are going to do to Stroud.  I read this!  We have a lot of ain't gots but this ain't one to worry about.

 

I'm in charge of making the Kool-Aid.  It's obvious someone has been bootlegging some inferior shit.  I have watched Levis go from 'ah shit' to potential OROY.  Chig gonna have 800yds.  Now this!  When you try to drink it before the end of August, there's no telling what kinda ideas might pop in your head.  It's still green.  Don't drink it and report anyone serving it to me.

Edited May 17 by Number9