tgo Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, rns90 said: It goes back to that post from another thread, let's save money and sign a bunch of questionable OL and awful WR in a bad class (for FA WR)! They've needed to get younger and cheaper on offense for a few years now. What we need is a franchise QB, because right now we don't have one. You don't like franchise QBs? Stranger, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 There's no evidence these guys are franchise QB's yet. By you're criteria, VY, Locker, and Mariota were franchise QB's.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: Wrong. You were the one claiming Nagy is some proven developer of QB based on one guy - Mahomes. Those two great OC's were god awful when they didn't have top tier QB's who were either first round picks or Warner. Nagy gets handed Mahomes, arguably the best QB in the last 20 years, and that's how he got the Chicago gig. He bombed with 2 young QB's he was supposed to mold. The idea of blaming Nagy for Mitch Trubisky and Fields not becoming elite QB's is pretty silly. They were both not considered good passing prospects, and Fields has mainly had success when running it all the time under the new regime. Nagy took Trubisky to a 12-4 record and a Pro Bowl as a rookie, and Trubisky stinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, tgo said: Btw - the idea of blaming Nagy for Mitch Trubisky and Fields not becoming elite QB's is pretty silly. They were both not considered good passing prospects, and Fields has mainly had success when running it all the time under the new regime. Nagy took Trubisky to a 12-4 record and a Pro Bowl as a rookie, and Trubisky stinks. You were the dumb fuck claiming he developed QB's,,,,Not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Just now, tgo said: What we need is a franchise QB, because right now we don't have one. You don't like franchise QBs? We are not in position to get one for multiple reasons: a) the entire offense needs to be rebuilt and b) suspect QB class and other teams can outbid us since they have more draft currency. It's not that hard and you're the one that needs to be repeatedly reminded of this, daily. BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Just now, BudsOilers said: There's no evidence these guys are franchise QB's yet. By you're criteria, VY, Locker, and Mariota were franchise QB's.... There's no evidence any highly drafted rookie is going to be a franchise QB! Lol You don't like Stroud, as an example, as a QB prospect? Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaninpgh Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Thank god for Da Bears Blog “reporting” because this place was entering the offseason doldrums titanskick8851, ChesterCopperpot1, and tgo 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: You were the dumb fuck claiming he developed QB's,,,,Not me. I literally did not say that...Why are you always straight up making shit up? At least be accurate when "quoting" me. I said Nagy would be an ideal offensive mind to develop a QB with a skillset like Stroud (AKA NOT THE SKILLSET THAT TRUBISKY AND JUSTIN FIELDS HAVE) It's been reported that Nagy was stuck with Trubisky against his will. Who would you suggest as an offensive mind to groom a highly drafted rookie QB instead? Edited February 3 by tgo IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 31 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: BTW there's a good chance the new stadium is 2027 based on what Nihill said recently. Yeah, 2026 was thrown out there because of the WC to try and get immediate movement from the city. Was always kind of unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, tgo said: There's no evidence any highly drafted rookie is going to be a franchise QB! Lol You don't like Stroud, as an example, as a QB prospect? In some cases, you can be pretty certain a guy is the guy. And when that's the case, those picks are not up for sale. Especially when the team with the pick would rather roll with Justin Fields.... There are things I do like about Stroud and Young. There's also stuff I don't like about them that raises flags about their ability to be good in the NFL and certainly if they go to a Titan team that will have a bad OL and questions at the skill spots. IowaOiler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaming_thumbtack Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 What are we going to have to add to the number 1 pick in our trade package for Aaron Rodgers? BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Just now, BudsOilers said: In some cases, you can be pretty certain a guy is the guy. And when that's the case, those picks are not up for sale. Especially when the team with the pick would rather roll with Justin Fields.... There are things I do like about Stroud and Young. There's also stuff I don't like about them that raises flags about their ability to be good in the NFL and certainly if they go to a Titan team that will have a bad OL and questions at the skill spots. The idea that the Titans OL would be crappy by default even with the cap savings from moving on from Tannehill is not really based on objective reality. There would be ways to improve the OL and WR rooms in FA and the draft. The improvement of the OL room over this year's mess is not entirely contingent on drafting a LT at pick 11. There are multiple ways to address the OL, starting with a better OL coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, tgo said: It's been reported that Nagy was stuck with Trubisky against his will. That makes no sense as Nagy took the job after Trubisky was drafted. rns90, and BudsOilers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, tgo said: I literally did not say that...Why are you always straight up making shit up? At least be accurate when "quoting" me. I said Nagy would be an ideal offensive mind to develop a QB with a skillset like Stroud (AKA NOT THE SKILLSET THAT TRUBISKY AND JUSTIN FIELDS HAVE) It's been reported that Nagy was stuck with Trubisky against his will. Who would you suggest as an offensive mind to groom a highly drafted rookie QB instead? Wrong again! What the fuck do you think "develop a QB" means? Aside from Mahomes, who is an unbelievable talent, there's nothing. Hence I question how ideal he is to develop a QB. I'm sure he, like every OC in the world, can scheme up some easy one read throws for guys....but that's NOT developing, especially if it goes on for years like a Mariota replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 As was said already, if we have the 11th pick and need a franchise QB and our GM doesn't al least call to inquire about the cost of trading up, he isn't doing his job. It's due diligence. Doogie, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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