AJClown Posted May 15, 2022 Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 Great thread to bump when Henry rushrs for 1400 + this season. Henry will be breaking LB’s and CB’s souls with his HOF caliber stiff arm. This forum is so weird man... they idolize a game managing QB but yet give up on a future HOF RB. Weird really weird. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsToTom Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 3:49 AM, IsntLifeFunny said: @NewsToTom Think you could give us a breakdown on those numbers? I've been busy with non-internet things and haven't gotten around to reading Mike's Friday article yet (and didn't know what it was about until coming here, I just know he's good and when he posts stuff). What numbers specifically are you curious about? If it's FO-related and/or PBP-based, I can get it (at some point, lots to catch up on). If it's SIS, not part of the stuff I can access easily. CreepingDeath, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueThunder said: On my screen it is right over and under the avatar. Just like yours are, with over 8K posts. Time for glasses? Mobile only. Dosent show it. TNTitans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, NewsToTom said: I've been busy with non-internet things and haven't gotten around to reading Mike's Friday article yet (and didn't know what it was about until coming here, I just know he's good and when he posts stuff). What numbers specifically are you curious about? If it's FO-related and/or PBP-based, I can get it (at some point, lots to catch up on). If it's SIS, not part of the stuff I can access easily. The stat he discussed was BMT. I was wondering if that stat could be broke down for Henry the past 3-4 seasons by first half and second half of the season. Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: The stat he discussed was BMT. I was wondering if that stat could be broke down for Henry the past 3-4 seasons by first half and second half of the season. That would be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 Henry is going to be 29 this season, has a historic workload and missed half the season last year. This isn't hard. After 2022 they can free up 12.5 mill by releasing him Hopefully he's still effective this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 8 hours ago, BlueThunder said: On my screen it is right over and under the avatar. Just like yours are, with over 8K posts. Time for glasses? If you are browsing the forum on a phone you don’t see the post count, location, or member lvl. You have to click their name and view their profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post japan Posted May 16, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: If you are browsing the forum on a phone you don’t see the post count, location, or member lvl. You have to click their name and view their profile. Odds are good that Joel either doesn’t have a mobile phone or it’s a flip phone…. Edited May 16, 2022 by japan IsntLifeFunny, heyitsmeallen, Alzarius, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted May 16, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, japan said: Odds are good that Joel either doesn’t have a mobile phone or it’s a flip phone…. he probably still has one of these. Justafan, heyitsmeallen, japan, and 3 others 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, logicals said: This is really sad to see. One of my favorite players. What's sad? He was off to having another historic season if it wasnt for a fluke injury... Don't let tannehill fanboys cloud your mind. They can't stand the fact that Henry is much more important than their posterboy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Henry is going to be 29 this season, has a historic workload and missed half the season last year. This isn't hard. After 2022 they can free up 12.5 mill by releasing him Hopefully he's still effective this season If he has another injury-plagued season or does show an actual significant drop off post-injury then odds are they will cut him and save the cap space. If he rounds back into 2000 yard type form then obviously not. We are just going to have to wait and see how he looks this year. XAEA12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted May 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 6 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: The stat he discussed was BMT. I was wondering if that stat could be broke down for Henry the past 3-4 seasons by first half and second half of the season. Pro Football Reference tracks Yards Before Contact, Yards after Contact, and Broken Tackles. Note Yards After Contact is pretty meaningless as it doesn't differentiate major contact (trucking a guy) or a defender sticking his arm out to graze the runner as he runs by them, For example, a defender grazing the runner at the LOS counts - think the long Henry runs last year vs Seattle and Buffalo. They started charting these in 2018 so it jives with DH as the main back for the most part. There were some interesting numbers The Yards before contact metric gives a good indication of the OL's blocking ability and the defense's respect for the passing game. The worst YBC's were 2018 and 2019 whereas 2020 and 2021 were both the same (2.1). YBC did rise each year in games 9 onward so there definitely is something to the idea the OL gets better as the season goes on. Makes sense given the limited reps teams get in the offseason, TC, and regular season practices. The Broken Tackles metric (Attempts/Brk) tells you what the ratio is per carry. Lower is better. This folks is where the concern needs to be. 2018 - it was 6.9 and 6.0 for the season splits. Note however that 16 of his 34 broken tackles that year were versus Jacksonville.......2019 - splits of 10.8 and 10.1. 2020 - splits of 10.7 and 11.5. All similar. 2021 1st half - 21.9....A huge decrease from prior years. rns90, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 Here is an article Mike Tanier wrote about Derrick Henry’s future decline after his 2019 playoff success, Henry then ran for 2k yards in the 2020 season…. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2906057-derrick-henrys-playoff-heroics-could-come-back-to-haunt-him-in-2020.amp.html Here is an article Mike Tanier wrote about Derrick Henry’s future decline in January of 2021 right after his 2k season. Henry proceeded to start off the 2021 season on pace to break the rushing record and become the first RB to go back to back 2k before a freak foot injury. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/sports/football/derrick-henry-2000-yard-rusher.html And now Mike Tanier has written a 3rd article for a 3rd season in a row on the decline of Derrick Henry….This guy Is like Bills fans predicting them to beat the Titans every year. If you say it enough it’s bound to happen eventually. Like I said earlier in the thread, Henry is known as a second half of the season RB and last season was on pace to break the rushing record and be first to go back to back 2k…so im personally going to wait until he has a full season and shows actual decline before saying he is declining. ChemEngr79, XAEA12, Supernope, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 If you predict it, it will come. ... just a matter of time. Number9, and heyitsmeallen 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: If you predict it, it will come. ... just a matter of time. Exactly. And if Henry doesn’t decline this year, expect an article from Mike Tanier before the 2023 season talking about his impending decline. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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