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1 minute ago, XAEA12 said:

Then use your timeouts and run the clock out when you're in field goal range like any normal person would do.

 

Unless you think your QB is going to turn the ball over and you're playing for OT.

 

So let's suppose they did what you suggest.  And Tannehill throws two incompletions.  Then what?  Cincinnati would have probably a minute or so and at least one timeout to get at most, if they'd gotten a good punt, 50 yards or so with their kicker who looks like the next Justin Tucker.  Not a risk I'd want to take.

 

However, if Tannehill completes the passes then you move knowing that one of two things are going to happen.  You're going to win in regulation or it's going to overtime.  You don't say well Cincinnati is going to win if we turn the ball over.  Not only is that not likely but I do not believe it's happened in Tannehill's entire time with the Titans.

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Just heard PK and the Outkick guys discussing this. I don't think we're talking about Vrabel's clock management enough here. Even after listening to him and Tannehill trying to explain the thought pro

wrong. you don't bleed the clock on the front end of the drive, you do it on the backend. It was poor clock management period.

I find it hard to believe that people are questioning that sequence. Was played perfectly. Don’t leave Bengals time to score if you have to punt. Try to get into FG range with seconds left if you can

2 minutes ago, scine09 said:

So let's suppose they did what you suggest.  And Tannehill throws two incompletions.  Then what?  Cincinnati would have probably a minute or so and at least one timeout to get at most, if they'd gotten a good punt, 50 yards or so with their kicker who looks like the next Justin Tucker.  Not a risk I'd want to take.

 

However, if Tannehill completes the passes then you move knowing that one of two things are going to happen.  You're going to win in regulation or it's going to overtime.  You don't say well Cincinnati is going to win if we turn the ball over.  Not only is that not likely but I do not believe it's happened in Tannehill's entire time with the Titans.

If in field goal range, why would we throw the ball?  Run it as far and as long as time will let you.  

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15 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Yes. You do that before you let the clock run down to 30 seconds....

Not if you're trying to both score on the last play of the game while at the same time making sure the other team doesn't get the ball.

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17 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Scine thinks every other offense does it wrong!

The Titans played this strategy against the 49ers as well.  Runs and short throws.  It just so happened that Tannehill broke one.  Then they were able to kill the rest of the clock.  They were trying to do the same thing in this situation.

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2 minutes ago, scine09 said:

The Titans played this strategy against the 49ers as well.  Runs and short throws.  It just so happened that Tannehill broke one.  Then they were able to kill the rest of the clock.  They were trying to do the same thing in this situation.

 

Look again at that time management in that game. The issue isn't running down the clock. It's doing it on their side of the field while 40 yards from FG range. 

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4 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Look again at that time management in that game. The issue isn't running down the clock. It's doing it on their side of the field while 40 yards from FG range. 

They had the big run.  That's why they were able to do what they did in that game.

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28 minutes ago, scine09 said:

They had the big run.  That's why they were able to do what they did in that game.

 

wrong. Look at the difference in how they handled the clock. They ran 4 plays in 40 seconds in the Niners game after the 2 mins warning until the big run at 1:20. In the Bengals game they ran 4 plays in 1:28 seconds. Notice how they were also in no huddle against the 49ers and not the Bengals? 

 

6 Yard Pass

(2:16) (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short middle to G.Swaim to TEN 31 for 6 yards (M.Harris).

1st & 10 at TEN 25

 

5 Yard Run

(2:00) (Shotgun) J.McNichols left tackle to TEN 36 for 5 yards (F.Warner).

2nd & 4 at TEN 31

 

4 Yard Pass

(1:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short right to G.Swaim to TEN 40 for 4 yards (M.Harris).

1st & 10 at TEN 36

 

6 Yard Penalty

(1:23) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass incomplete short middle to G.Swaim. PENALTY on SF-M.Harris, Defensive Pass Interference, 6 yards, enforced at TEN 40 - No Play.

2nd & 6 at TEN 40

 

23 Yard Run

(1:20) (Shotgun) R.Tannehill scrambles up the middle to SF 31 for 23 yards (J.Tartt).

1st & 10 at TEN 46

 

 

 

 

3 Yard Run

(2:43) D.Henry right end to TEN 19 for 3 yards (C.Awuzie).

1st & 10 at TEN 16

 

16 Yard Pass

(2:00) (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short middle to J.Jones to TEN 35 for 16 yards (E.Apple, L.Wilson). CIN-T.Hendrickson was injured during the play. His return is Questionable.

2nd & 7 at TEN 19

 

Run for No Gain

(1:46) D.Henry left tackle to TEN 35 for no gain (D.Reader).

1st & 10 at TEN 35

 

5 Yard Pass

(1:08) (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short middle to D.Hilliard to TEN 40 for 5 yards (L.Wilson).

2nd & 10 at TEN 35

 

Interception

(:28) (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short left intended for N.Westbrook-Ikhine INTERCEPTED by L.Wilson (E.Apple) at CIN 47. L.Wilson to CIN 47 for no gain (A.Firkser).

3rd & 5 at TEN 40

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The strategy was fine, the problem was Tannehill threw an INT, it's as simple as that.

 

The Titans notoriously run the ball in the 2:00 offense and often they end up scoring with no time left. Their running plays in this situation has been discussed on here. 

 

The ball was picked off at the Cincy 47 with 28 seconds left. That's an eternity to get in FG range and kick the game winner. 

 

And yes bleeding the clock down is as important as getting in range

 

 

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1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

The strategy was fine, the problem was Tannehill threw an INT, it's as simple as that.

 

The Titans notoriously run the ball in the 2:00 offense and often they end up scoring with no time left. Their running plays in this situation has been discussed on here. 

 

The ball was picked off at the Cincy 47 with 28 seconds left. That's an eternity to get in FG range and kick the game winner. 

 

And yes bleeding the clock down is as important as getting in range

 

 

 

See above. Bleeding the clock is fine, taking 1:28 seconds to run 4 plays from inside your own 40 is not. The Int is obviously on Tannehill but it overshadows how the last drive was mismanaged clock wise. Never mind the strategy of hoping Fat Randy can make a 45+ yard kick to win a playoff game. 

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47 minutes ago, scine09 said:

Not if you're trying to both score on the last play of the game while at the same time making sure the other team doesn't get the ball.


Can you explain why running the clock down on our side of the field is better than running it down on theirs while in FG range?  

I mean, if you just flat out don't want to get 6, then just have the RB fall down before he scores.  

 

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11 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

See above. Bleeding the clock is fine, taking 1:28 seconds to run 4 plays from inside your own 40 is not. The Int is obviously on Tannehill but it overshadows how the last drive was mismanaged clock wise. Never mind the strategy of hoping Fat Randy can make a 45+ yard kick to win a playoff game. 

 

If the Titans don't convert the 3rd down, vs the INT they are punting the ball back to the Bengals. The goal is leave little time left. Bleeding the clock was fine there, they had plenty of time to still get into FG range and a missed FG leaves it a tie game. 

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