AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Honest question for everyone what do you want out of 2022 - Reload the offense around Tannehill/Henry/Brown and make one final push with this group to see how close you can get to a Super Bowl or - Spend valuable draft resources taking a young QB that in all likelihood can't help you in 2022, that also does two things reduces the ability to add other offensive pieces for 2022 and doesn't guarantee better QB play in 2023. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: You were one of the Mariota cheerleaders all the way down with the ship, of course you didn't like Tannehill. Defend your guy lmaooo.. i never realized how fond you've grown of him. You're probably prepared to call him the greatest player in organization history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 I think its fair to state the previous two playoff losses were not really on Tannehill and were nowhere near the debacle we saw on Saturday where he single handedly lost the game. This idea Tannehill has sucked for 3 straight playoff runs is revisionist bullshit. However and this is the camp I'm now firmly entrenched in, all that matters is winning and they are 2-3, losers of 3 straight, 2 straight at home to inferior opponents with Tannehill at QB. Its definitely fair game to wonder if he simply can't get it done in the playoffs. It would be different they were advancing deep into the playoffs and losing to Mahomes or even Allen. Hell even if they had made it to Superbowl and lost against Brady or Rodgers. Its bowing out early two years in a row that has fans and others wondering if the Titans have hit a ceiling and I think thats a valid question. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Oilerman was basically calling Tannehill just LAST WEEK, and now is dealing with the very painful truth that he's hit the ceiling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Eviscerated might be a little strong, but he deserves the brunt of the blame for sure. We can hate on him all we want but the reality is that is replacing him is not easy. There are not that many guys who are substantially better than him. We'd have to hope for Rodgers or Wilson, but they both have to actually decide to leave and then want to come here first. Many have doubts about Wilson atm anyway. I've heard he played better to end the season when he was healthy, but I don't know. Edited January 25, 2022 by Titans279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said: Honest question for everyone what do you want out of 2022 - Reload the offense around Tannehill/Henry/Brown and make one final push with this group to see how close you can get to a Super Bowl or - Spend valuable draft resources taking a young QB that in all likelihood can't help you in 2022, that also does two things reduces the ability to add other offensive pieces for 2022 and doesn't guarantee better QB play in 2023. well as usual that depends. I wouldn't move on from Tannehill unless you had a clear upgrade which is basically only Wilson or Rodgers when you factor in who will be available. So in that case they reload and go for it in '22 with the same core. Just need to retool TE, Slot WR, and the OL while keeping Landry. As for scenario two. I think you only go that route if you fall in love with a QB prospect during the draft process and you can go get him. I doubt thats possible with the draft capital they have. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Never the less, fans persisted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: well as usual that depends. I wouldn't move on from Tannehill unless you had a clear upgrade which is basically only Wilson or Rodgers when you factor in who will be available. So in that case they reload and go for it in '22 with the same core. Just need to retool TE, Slot WR, and the OL while keeping Landry. As for scenario two. I think you only go that route if you fall in love with a QB prospect during the draft process and you can go get him. I doubt thats possible with the draft capital they have. Going with scenario two basically amounts to this team shifting expectations it would be a shift from being all in on the current season to preparing for the future. Have seen some comments suggesting trading up for the QB should be on the table, just want to remind everyone the possible cost involved in leaping up This is what it cost the Giants to jump up from pick #20 to pick #10 in the 2021 draft to select Justin Fields - 1st Round Pick #20 (2021 draft) - 5th Round Pick #164 (2021 draft) - 1st Round Pick #7 (2022 draft) - 4th Round pick #108 (2022 draft) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Going with scenario two basically amounts to this team shifting expectations it would be a shift from being all in on the current season to preparing for the future. Have seen some comments suggesting trading up for the QB should be on the table, just want to remind everyone the possible cost involved in leaping up This is what it cost the Giants to jump up from pick #20 to pick #10 in the 2021 draft to select Justin Fields - 1st Round Pick #20 (2021 draft) - 5th Round Pick #164 (2021 draft) - 1st Round Pick #7 (2022 draft) - 4th Round pick #108 (2022 draft) So essentially: Next years first Next years 4th and this years 5th Thats not terrible at all if there’s a QB you think is the guy. was it you or @IrishTitansFan that had talked about our scouts at notable QB’s games? I’d like more info on that if possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Going with scenario two basically amounts to this team shifting expectations it would be a shift from being all in on the current season to preparing for the future. Have seen some comments suggesting trading up for the QB should be on the table, just want to remind everyone the possible cost involved in leaping up This is what it cost the Giants to jump up from pick #20 to pick #10 in the 2021 draft to select Justin Fields - 1st Round Pick #20 (2021 draft) - 5th Round Pick #164 (2021 draft) - 1st Round Pick #7 (2022 draft) - 4th Round pick #108 (2022 draft) Chiefs made the playoffs the same year they traded up for Mahomes (and got bounced by the Titans in the epic comeback, ). It’s not like the team is back to square 1 if they trade up for a QB. These aren’t the Ruston Webster days. The overall roster makeup is in much better shape. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mercalius said: So essentially: Next years first Next years 4th and this years 5th Thats not terrible at all if there’s a QB you think is the guy. was it you or @IrishTitansFan that had talked about our scouts at notable QB’s games? I’d like more info on that if possible Don't forget this years 1st as well. Yes it was me mentioning the Titans had scouts watch all the top QB's during the CFB season. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said: Don't forget this years 1st as well. Yes it was me mentioning the Titans had scouts watch all the top QB's during the CFB season. I don’t really count a current year 1st round pick as something given up to move up further in round one. Some folks do, I just view it as a given you don’t keep your later first for the one you’re moving up for - just the extra picks involved. Was there a QB we watched multiple times, and did we seem interested in the bigger names of folks who two weeks ago seemed complete pipe dreams we’d even think about drafting? (Pickett, etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Jonboy said: Chiefs made the playoffs the same year they traded up for Mahomes (and got bounced by the Titans in the epic comeback, ). It’s not like the team is back to square 1 if they trade up for a QB. These aren’t the Ruston Webster days. The overall roster makeup is in much better shape. Didn't say they were back to square 1 what I pointed out that you are diverting significant resources that could be allocated to help in 2022. What you are essentially doing is saying a team that wasn't good enough to win home playoff games in back to back years and taking the single greatest asset you have to improve this offseason is going to be spent on someone that likely can't help you in 2022. The moment JRob pulls the trigger on a first round QB you are now no longer in full on win now mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mercalius said: I don’t really count a current year 1st round pick as something given up to move up further in round one. Some folks do, I just view it as a given you don’t keep your later first for the one you’re moving up for - just the extra picks involved. Was there a QB we watched multiple times, and did we seem interested in the bigger names of folks who two weeks ago seemed complete pipe dreams we’d even think about drafting? (Pickett, etc) There was no reporting to indicate the Titans watched a QB more than once (doesn't mean it didn't happen just that it wasn't reported) Mercalius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said: There was no reporting to indicate the Titans watched a QB more than once (doesn't mean it didn't happen just that it wasn't reported) Thanks. As a self admitted awful evaluator of QB prospects I like Pickett, Strong, and Ridder, not necessarily in that order. I’ll be curious to see any potential interactions as we lead up to the draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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