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This is the big piece of legislation that is going to the consume the policy debate over the coming months, so making a thread for it. 

 

Personally, I think any new legislation needs to be fully paid for, and I think most agree - so the questions are the pay-for methods, defining what is infrastructure, and the overall price tag. 

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More nonsense from longtimebitch. The data doesn't lie, the GOP uses the filibuster to obstruct.    

Dems should be wildly broadcasting the fact that the GOP is trying to fund it on “user fees” (cost increases for normal people) because they refuse to raise taxes on corporations. 

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I think what this process is really more about is appeasing Manchin and Sinema and exhausting the bipartisan negotiation process, but working in good faith. 

 

Then and only then can you get their votes on a watered down proposal. It also allows the party and administration to say they made all these concessions and pass a smaller bill without publicly blaming Manchin/Sinema for watering it down, which they would have done anyway. 

 

Even though you're giving up concessions, it is the wise political approach, as it also allows the WH to look like they are working in a bipartisan manner for appearances and voters like that. And it gives you a counter to the "big spending socialist agenda" narrative from the right along with allowing Dems to draw a line in the sand and say "we're not making the little guy pay for this, we're for the little guy, we're gonna make Bezos pay for it!" 

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I support trying but I seriously doubt the GOP agrees to anything and in the end the Dems will probably have to go it alone to pass anything. The GOP is about stalling and blocking anything Dems want to do so they either look like they can't do anything ot they go it alone and get called far left socialists bc they didn't get GOP support. 

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It’s literally pointless to negotiate with Republicans at this point. In terms of political calculus I’m not sure it’s worth it anymore. These fucks are about to vote down investigating Jan 6th. Turning off people of color and progressives at the hope for what exactly? Fuck ‘em. Once they vote down the bipartisan investigation Biden needs to tell Republicans to get bent. 

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22 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

It’s literally pointless to negotiate with Republicans at this point. In terms of political calculus I’m not sure it’s worth it anymore. These fucks are about to vote down investigating Jan 6th. Turning off people of color and progressives at the hope for what exactly? Fuck ‘em. Once they vote down the bipartisan investigation Biden needs to tell Republicans to get bent. 

“Negotiation” is all for show and has been for years. Everyone knows the GOP literally campaigns on refusing to negotiate with Democrats.

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On 5/21/2021 at 8:54 PM, IsntLifeFunny said:

It’s literally pointless to negotiate with Republicans at this point. In terms of political calculus I’m not sure it’s worth it anymore. These fucks are about to vote down investigating Jan 6th. Turning off people of color and progressives at the hope for what exactly? Fuck ‘em. Once they vote down the bipartisan investigation Biden needs to tell Republicans to get bent. 

 

Democrats have too big of a tent to just default to going alone on everything. They have to "try" bipartisanship then go alone when it fails. 

Plus it's good campaign meat for 2022. 

 

A couple good reads on this

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/we-told-you-this-was-the-game-joe-manchin-was-playing/39117/

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/chuck-schumer-is-playing-this-exactly-right/39120/

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