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Starkiller Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 And so it begins… oldschool, and ChesterCopperpot1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: And so it begins… No one to blame but 2016 voters. One of my pet peeves. If a women's right to choose is a core belief of yours, you had no choice but to vote for Clinton. Now we have to deal with the repercussions of a heavily slanted Supreme Court. Edited May 17, 2021 by oldschool Starkiller, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 If Roe v. Wade is struck down or weakened, it will be Bernie's legacy. He pulled the "rigged primary" card B.S. (sound familiar?) and signaled to his supporters to not support Hillary. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.html https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: If Roe v. Wade is struck down or weakened, it will be Bernie's legacy. He pulled the "rigged primary" card B.S. (sound familiar?) and signaled to his supporters to not support Hillary. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.html https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds You are so stupid lol WG53, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Titans279 said: You are so stupid lol Do you have any evidence to refute or are you just talking out of your ass? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 If you can't beat Trump you suck Mythos27, and ChesterCopperpot1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: Do you have any evidence to refute or are you just talking out of your ass? My take here is that you have a particular ideological axe to grind with Sanders and his supporters so you will place all the blame on him and them. It seems like to me in reality that singling them out doesn't makes much sense. Why not blame Black people who also showed up at much lower rates for Clinton than they had for Obama? There's blame to go around. You can blame voters generally or even Democrats (voters and elites) for selecting Clinton herself. She ended up the second most unpopular candidate ever, something Obama and Biden were able to avoid. Also Bernie primary voters did show up at similar rates to Clinton voters showing up for Obama in 2008. I don't think they were uniquely driven to not show up. Edited May 17, 2021 by Titans279 OILERMAN, Mythos27, and WG53 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come on Titans Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 I've posted this before.... Starkiller, IsntLifeFunny, and Bink 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: If Roe v. Wade is struck down or weakened, it will be Bernie's legacy. He pulled the "rigged primary" card B.S. (sound familiar?) and signaled to his supporters to not support Hillary. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.html https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds It won’t be on Bernie, but it will be on the Bernie Bros and anyone else who didn’t vote for Hillary WG53, and luvyablue256 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Come on Titans said: I've posted this before.... Buy coat hanger futures! Come on Titans, and chef 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Come on Titans said: I've posted this before.... Even though this is a politically advantageous argument I don't think it's really true. If abortion is made illegal the number of abortions will drop. There will still be illegal ones but a ban is not going to have no effect on the total number of abortions. Come on Titans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Titans279 said: My take here is that you have a particular ideological axe to grind with Sanders and his supporters so you will place all the blame on him and them. It seems like to me in reality that singling them out doesn't makes much sense. Why not blame Black people who also showed up at much lower rates for Clinton than they had for Obama? There's blame to go around. You can blame voters generally or even Democrats (voters and elites) for selecting Clinton herself. She ended up the second most unpopular candidate ever, something Obama and Biden were able to avoid. Also Bernie primary voters did show up at similar rates to Clinton voters showing up for Obama in 2008. I don't think they were uniquely driven to not show up. The drop in Black voters contributed to it also, but there was no preferred Black candidate that lost the primary, claimed it was rigged, and publicly said they wouldn't support Clinton. Edited May 17, 2021 by luvyablue256 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: The drop in Black voters contributed to it also, but there was no preferred Black candidate that lost the primary, claimed it was rigged, and publicly said they wouldn't support Clinton. Bernie did support Clinton in 2016. He stumped all over the place for her and urged his supporters to vote for her. But assuming what you said for the sake of argument what excuse do Black people have then? Seems even worse that they didn’t show up without being misled by a leader (but again Bernie did campaign heavily for Clinton). Btw the exit polls show that Black people voted at a lower rate for Biden in 2020 than Clinton in 2016! Mythos27, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: Buy coat hanger futures! Coat hanger NFTs perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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