abenjami Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 6 hours ago, Justafan said: It might not matter in a criminal court but it does in the court of public opinion. Yeah but the NFL doesn't seem to care about the court of public opinion unless there's undeniably evidence to the point they have to do take action. You know, like an actual video of a guy punching a girl in an elevator. Short of that, they'll just brush it under the rug and no one will really care. SleepingTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, abenjami said: Yeah but the NFL doesn't seem to care about the court of public opinion unless there's undeniably evidence to the point they have to do take action. You know, like an actual video of a guy punching a girl in an elevator. Short of that, they'll just brush it under the rug and no one will really care. A lot has changed since the video of the girl getting punched in the elevator; btw he never played again. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 7 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Court of public opinion doesn’t exist because there’s never a verdict/evidence/rulings etc. I disagree. The public has put pressure on the NFL to take action on a myriad of topics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChesterCopperpot1 Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 39 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: That’s not that big of a shift. Alcibiades 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SleepingTitan Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 I bet they gather all these women in a room and hand out big faced hunnits in exchange for settling and NDAs. Maybe it will be a happy ending for everyone after all. KenAmato58 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said: I bet they gather all these women in a room and hand out big faced hunnits in exchange for settling and NDAs. Maybe it will be a happy ending for everyone after all. They already declined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 Good take by Rich Eisen who, btw, was at one time a huge DW fan: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No1TitansFan Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jamalisms said: "He didn't do anything wrong, and if he did, it was consensual and the 66 different women were just as much at fault." Edited June 16 by No1TitansFan Alcibiades, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 The article by Robinson was a good read. One can see how it was problematic for this to result in a criminal indictment. Watson may be a dirt bag but IMO he found a pretty nice loop hole of reasonable doubt in his actions. This is why it will go the civil route where the burden of proof isn't the same. As for the HPD detective, yikes. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 On 6/15/2022 at 2:16 PM, Jamalisms said: Detective Baker’s credibility is shot the moment she testified she assumes a the accused is guilty of a crime and it’s up to the accused to prove his innocence. That’s not the way our system is set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 12 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Detective Baker’s credibility is shot the moment she testified she assumes a the accused is guilty of a crime and it’s up to the accused to prove his innocence. That’s not the way our system is set up. That's not the way it's set up with the actual court case. I'm unclear that it's an inappropriate way for an investigator to consider things as they try to determine whether or not to seek charges. And I suspect it will drive a lot more in a civil trial than criminal proceedings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Detectives don't have time to give accused the benefit of the doubt, they take accusers at their word unlesst there's obvious discrepancies and start investigating and then let the evidence determine whether there's adequete evidence to charge or if the evidence shows innocence. Their job is to gather evidence. That's why there's criminal penalties for filing false reports. It's courts that are supposed to assume innocence. This is a lawyer playing semantics games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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