IowaOiler Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Righteous said: The Titans were 4-3 versus playoff teams in the regular season last year. How is that a bad thing? Yeah, and the playoffs were expanded, and we had two weeks to prep for the Buffalo game and the Ravens game. Seriously, feel free to think we are a real contender, but just remember this next year when we are around .500 and asking why the 'sudden' drop-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: Yeah, and the playoffs were expanded, and we had two weeks to prep for the Buffalo game and the Ravens game. Seriously, feel free to think we are a real contender, but just remember this next year when we are around .500 and asking why the 'sudden' drop-off. Lol. 2 Weeks to prepare for Buffalo (without practices...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, IowaOiler said: Yeah, and the playoffs were expanded, and we had two weeks to prep for the Buffalo game and the Ravens game. Seriously, feel free to think we are a real contender, but just remember this next year when we are around .500 and asking why the 'sudden' drop-off. You can’t discredit the wins to complete a narrative. We were over .500 against the good teams and 7-2 against the rest. We laid an egg in the playoffs, nothing more or less. Next year is a new season. Fortify the areas of weaknesses and hope to stay healthy and get lucky in the playoffs. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleytolar Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, scine09 said: The Giants once won the Super Bowl with a negative point differential. In general it’s the team who is hot at the end who wins (like TB this year and KC last year). Key word "once"... looks like one of those exceptions that proves the rule. Edited March 8, 2021 by charleytolar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleytolar Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Righteous said: You can’t discredit the wins to complete a narrative. We were over .500 against the good teams and 7-2 against the rest. We laid an egg in the playoffs, nothing more or less. Next year is a new season. Fortify the areas of weaknesses and hope to stay healthy and get lucky in the playoffs. The point is not to "discredit" anything. It's just to have an honest appraisal for the sake of getting a true measurement of how your team is performing. Anytime we win, I'm glad but it is a little dis-heartening when the game-winning field goal double-doinks through the uprights rather than sails through the center. I'd rather we be good than lucky as it is more reliable in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 hours ago, scine09 said: The Giants once won the Super Bowl with a negative point differential. In general it’s the team who is hot at the end who wins (like TB this year and KC last year). The Giants were a bit of a fluke. The best teams that challenge for the SB typically have the biggest point differential. The Bucs and KC were among the best in this category. Saints, Bills, Ravens and GB up there as well. All the true contenders. Sure they play a lot of close games but they also blow out bad teams and route teams more often Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 I guess, but what was our point differential in 2019 when we went to the AFCCG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, japan said: I guess, but what was our point differential in 2019 when we went to the AFCCG? +71 That's distorted because of the MM starts though. After Tannehill took over it was much better. It's not a coincidence the Ravens, Pats and KC were the top 3. 2019 Titans were 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Maybe there is some correlation but I still don’t put much stock into it. Like scine said, it’s all about getting hot at the right time. And those early squeakers against lower level opponents could just be a symptom of a team that was slow starting and if those games were played in the second half when we were beating bad teams comfortably it would reflect differently. 4-3 against playoff teams is more telling to me than how much you run up the score on bad teams. See Bucs against Detroit (40 pt differential) and the Panthers twice. Edited March 8, 2021 by japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 14 hours ago, japan said: Lol. 2 Weeks to prepare for Buffalo (without practices...) We were able to get healthy, and Vrabel had plenty of time to put together a solid game-plan. Do you think that game goes the same way if we played the season as it was scheduled? I don't. 13 hours ago, Righteous said: You can’t discredit the wins to complete a narrative. We were over .500 against the good teams and 7-2 against the rest. We laid an egg in the playoffs, nothing more or less. Next year is a new season. Fortify the areas of weaknesses and hope to stay healthy and get lucky in the playoffs. I'm not discrediting wins, I'm simply providing context. If context wasn't something important, we wouldn't have the endless supply of statistics that we have. Again, I hope we do well, but there is nothing that the coaching staff has shown that gives me any hope of making the playoffs next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Historically, point differential is a more reliable metric but I do think that in the last 15-20 years, getting hot at the right time can put a team over the top. The 2007/2011 Giants come to mind as average teams that got hot. 2012 Ravens fall into that too. On point differential, good teams generally have close games against other good teams but blow out bad teams. The 2020 Titans were a bit off there - a few close games against bad teams (Denver, Jags, Texans) but then they won handily against the Bills. Back to the topic at hand, the reality is that the Titans as constructed were not good enough. The question is whether they can fix their issues and replace whomever leaves (cuts/FA) to remain a potential SB contender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, IowaOiler said: We were able to get healthy, and Vrabel had plenty of time to put together a solid game-plan. Do you think that game goes the same way if we played the season as it was scheduled? I don't. I'm not discrediting wins, I'm simply providing context. If context wasn't something important, we wouldn't have the endless supply of statistics that we have. Again, I hope we do well, but there is nothing that the coaching staff has shown that gives me any hope of making the playoffs next year. Besides making the playoffs 2 straight years and winning the division this year. Seems to me the coaching staff has the team on an upward trajectory. I am definitely not in agreement with the doom and gloom. We will all see how next year plays out but I surely wouldn’t predict disaster after finally winning the division after several years. I can see complaining about losing but complaining about not winning by more is flat out ridiculous. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, IowaOiler said: We were able to get healthy, and Vrabel had plenty of time to put together a solid game-plan. Do you think that game goes the same way if we played the season as it was scheduled? I don't. Definitely. If we were able actually have practices and meetings in person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Righteous said: Besides making the playoffs 2 straight years and winning the division this year. Seems to me the coaching staff has the team on an upward trajectory. I am definitely not in agreement with the doom and gloom. We will all see how next year plays out but I surely wouldn’t predict disaster after finally winning the division after several years. I can see complaining about losing but complaining about not winning by more is flat out ridiculous. That analysis is devoid of context, but to each their own. When we miss the playoffs next year, the defense is slightly better but still unable to get off the field or to the QB, and the offense isn't nearly as good as they were this year...what will the excuses be for supporting this coaching staff? That's what I'm really interested to hear. 10 minutes ago, japan said: Definitely. If we were able actually have practices and meetings in person. We disagree then. Practices and meetings didn't seem to help Buffalo much, but I bet two weeks off before the game would have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 @IowaOiler Let’s wait until we miss the playoffs to contemplate that. Trust me, you will drive yourself batshit crazy looking for things to be disappointed by. Let’s deal with it when it happens. It sounds like you are becoming your parents . Lighten up, Francis. japan, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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