Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: They underachieved, largely in part to getting next to nothing out of their free agency and draft additions on top of the apparent regression in coaching....Yay! Winning a division is hollow when you are one and done, especially in HOW they lost the playoff game. And LOL about injuries - every team battles injuries. Thanks for repeating what I said. The fact that they won 11 games and the division title shows right there the almost certain probability the team would have been even better. Repeat after me. This team won 11 games and never gave up. Our goal after the playoffs last year, improve the pass rush, build a team to beat KC, win the South and get at least on home game. Results. Highest scoring offense in the NFL. Won South. Hosted a playoff game. I fail to understand what it is you don't see, except maybe that I said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, RocketBills2 said: quit crying and move on!! henry and tranny will back with a vengeance!!! Shew! You go on now. You guys are hosting a divisional game. By happy. Nobody here is crying. We played you when more of our pieces were present, be thankful our team fell apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Number9 said: Thanks for repeating what I said. The fact that they won 11 games and the division title shows right there the almost certain probability the team would have been even better. Repeat after me. This team won 11 games and never gave up. Our goal after the playoffs last year, improve the pass rush, build a team to beat KC, win the South and get at least on home game. Results. Highest scoring offense in the NFL. Won South. Hosted a playoff game. I fail to understand what it is you don't see, except maybe that I said it. Wrong. The goal was to win a SB and they didn't even win a playoff game. Remember when JRob and Vrabel said the goal was championships and that winning a playoff game wasn't good enough? Good to Great? No it was good to good. The offense was basically the same in 2020 as in 2019 (once RT took over) in terms of success/efficiency. The defense slipped badly. ST was among the worst in football, even with Kern. They had a good team and did some good things but winning the division but one and done wasn't progress. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, RocketBills2 said: that's fine. it's just a game. Life is so much more than football. If they lose, great. They have a ton to build on going into next season. I feel the same about the titans. so get over it, stop being a bitch, and enjoy life!! Come on you’re gonna cry if you lose which you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Wrong. The goal was to win a SB and they didn't even win a playoff game. Remember when JRob and Vrabel said the goal was championships and that winning a playoff game wasn't good enough? Good to Great? No it was good to good. The offense was basically the same in 2020 as in 2019 (once RT took over) in terms of success/efficiency. The defense slipped badly. ST was among the worst in football, even with Kern. They had a good team and did some good things but winning the division but one and done wasn't progress. When I said a few weeks ago the goal was to win the SB, you said I was cuckoo. Again, repeating my correctness doesn't make you win over me. I said, second best team in this run. We are in the Mariota run. This was year four. These windows don't last for much more than that really, but I think do to the mastery of JRob we can get more than usual. Again, my original post award #1 2019 Titans, #2 2020 Titans, #3 2018 Titans. This team faced some unusual adversity and still won 11 games. We have a badass GM. We have a badass HC, who needs to be gagged when deciding "certain" things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Number9 said: When I said a few weeks ago the goal was to win the SB, you said I was cuckoo. Again, repeating my correctness doesn't make you win over me. I said, second best team in this run. We are in the Mariota run. This was year four. These windows don't last for much more than that really, but I think do to the mastery of JRob we can get more than usual. Again, my original post award #1 2019 Titans, #2 2020 Titans, #3 2018 Titans. This team faced some unusual adversity and still won 11 games. We have a badass GM. We have a badass HC, who needs to be gagged when deciding "certain" things. No you went on some rambling post about how it wasn't going to happen because Vrabel had too much say in personnel (with no proof mind you) on the moves that didn't work. Basically that any Robinson move under scrutiny was Vrabel's fault................Remember? I did point out that while the team goal is winning the SB, a fan's reasonable expectations shouldn't expect a SB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 11-5 and a wildcard loss is not great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: No you went on some rambling post about how it wasn't going to happen because Vrabel had too much say in personnel (with no proof mind you) on the moves that didn't work. Basically that any Robinson move under scrutiny was Vrabel's fault................Remember? I did point out that while the team goal is winning the SB, a fan's reasonable expectations shouldn't expect a SB. You are the most agreeable-disagreeable person I know. You agree I said it, then you disagree about why. My statement still stands. The goal of the formation and the 2020 Titans team was to win the SB. I already showed the offensive improvements which you claim is not better than last year's. IF (IF) Beasley and Clowney did 80% what we expected this team would be playing this coming weekend and might have been hosting. Lewan-LT. Adoree-CB. A team cannot afford to lose players like those two. Jayon Brown, I seem to remember him making some remarkable plays @Ravens last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Titans279 said: 11-5 and a wildcard loss is not great. It's fantastic with the talent we fielded each week, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Number9 said: You are the most agreeable-disagreeable person I know. You agree I said it, then you disagree about why. My statement still stands. The goal of the formation and the 2020 Titans team was to win the SB. I already showed the offensive improvements which you claim is not better than last year's. IF (IF) Beasley and Clowney did 80% what we expected this team would be playing this coming weekend and might have been hosting. Lewan-LT. Adoree-CB. A team cannot afford to lose players like those two. Jayon Brown, I seem to remember him making some remarkable plays @Ravens last year. The goal of the team since Robinson hired Vrabel was to win the SB. 2018. 2019. Same for all of the other playoff teams, especially the perennial ones like KC, Seattle, GB, and up until this year NE. On paper, the moves made in the offseason looked to address issues but they did not. Hence, why you tried to blame it on Vrabel..... In reality, the Titans WERE NOT legitimate SB contenders because their defense had the same flaws it had in 2019 along with a worse defensive coaching staff, injuries, and a regression of some other players. Add in the bad ST play. As for your details, the offense was not #1 overall in scoring. They were 4th. They were 2nd in the 10 games Tannehill started last year.....It was plenty good enough to win a SB though even with the stupid run/pass ratio on conflicted downs issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: The goal of the team since Robinson hired Vrabel was to win the SB. 2018. 2019. Same for all of the other playoff teams, especially the perennial ones like KC, Seattle, GB, and up until this year NE. On paper, the moves made in the offseason looked to address issues but they did not. Hence, why you tried to blame it on Vrabel..... In reality, the Titans WERE NOT legitimate SB contenders because their defense had the same flaws it had in 2019 along with a worse defensive coaching staff, injuries, and a regression of some other players. Add in the bad ST play. As for your details, the offense was not #1 overall in scoring. They were 4th. They were 2nd in the 10 games Tannehill started last year.....It was plenty good enough to win a SB though even with the stupid run/pass ratio on conflicted downs issue. Correct! I see you are a good student. Vrabel is a terrific HC. I think we are nearing a new era in football where HC is the job, period. The HC will assume the responsibility of HC. He will not be trying to hold other positions on the team, such as DC, OC or GM. Technology has changed everything, even the NFL. A HC just doesn't have time to keep up with all his responsibilities and be DC too. Vrabel, got his nose too far into a couple of areas this year that hurt the team badly. Clowney was Vrabel's choice, no doubt about that. I believe he had JRob believing he could make(I'm not sure what out of his little skinny butt) Rev Victor Beasley a force to fear on the Titans front. Add in this curious he is/he ain't the DC. That is NOT what you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Number9 said: Correct! I see you are a good student. Vrabel is a terrific HC. I think we are nearing a new era in football where HC is the job, period. The HC will assume the responsibility of HC. He will not be trying to hold other positions on the team, such as DC, OC or GM. Technology has changed everything, even the NFL. A HC just doesn't have time to keep up with all his responsibilities and be DC too. Vrabel, got his nose too far into a couple of areas this year that hurt the team badly. Clowney was Vrabel's choice, no doubt about that. I believe he had JRob believing he could make(I'm not sure what out of his little skinny butt) Rev Victor Beasley a force to fear on the Titans front. Add in this curious he is/he ain't the DC. That is NOT what you do. Wrong......Robinson has full control/final say on personnel. Vrabel also wasn't the DC (Bowen was w/o the formal title) nor was he the OC. Vrabel's culpable for his staffing choices albeit even then, he reports to Robinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, BudsOilers said: Wrong......Robinson has full control/final say on personnel. Vrabel also wasn't the DC (Bowen was w/o the formal title) nor was he the OC. Vrabel's culpable for his staffing choices albeit even then, he reports to Robinson. https://www.tennesseetitans.com/team/coaches-roster/ Go there to see for yourself who the DC is. Now, if you fancy some deep throat bs, might as well claim Miss Amy is the DC. T-Rac? I agree JRob is responsible. I want him to stand up to Vrabel. Don't let him impose his will over him. BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Vrabel and Byard both confirmed today that Bowen was the de facto DC - running the defensive meetings and calling the plays. Of course, this isn't new information...... I sure hope wittle JRob can finally stand up to big bad Vrabel........LOL. JRob hired Vrabel........... Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Vrabel and Byard both confirmed today that Bowen was the de facto DC - running the defensive meetings and calling the plays. Of course, this isn't new information...... I sure hope wittle JRob can finally stand up to big bad Vrabel........LOL. JRob hired Vrabel........... Underlings will always fall on the knife. Titans need to get a real DC. We need a real one, not playing some game about who the DC really is. Masked DC Guess who it is. BS Hey look, It's Shane Bowen. Well, I'll be damn. I sure thought it was Mike Vrabel. Edited January 12, 2021 by Number9 BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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