titanskick8851 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Basham is someone that I think is a perfect fit for what we are looking for at the spot opposite of Landry. I think with players like Basham you have a lower ceiling, but you know what you are getting when you draft them and that they can contribute Day 1. Get similar vibes from Tryon as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 18 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Trading back should be option 1 this year. Option 1B. We need an impact defensive player we need to stick and pick if we believe one is there. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) The only pass rusher worthy of a mid first round pick seems to be Jaelen Phillips, despite his injury/concussion issues. He's the only one who has the potential to live up to the draft slot by my estimation. There's a lot more value at corner and tackle in the mid first. The value at OLB and WR will be in the 2nd and third rounds, imo. Edited March 4, 2021 by tgo Mythos27, and titanskick8851 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, tgo said: The only pass rusher worthy of a mid first round pick seems to be Jaelen Phillips, despite his injury/concussion issues. He's the only one who has the potential to live up to the draft slot by my estimation. There's a lot more value at corner and tackle in the mid first. The value at OLB and WR will be in the 2nd and third rounds, imo. I disagree on the pass rusher part and I am wondering if Robinson does too. What I mean is, where would a Joe Tryon have gone in the Draft if he had played this year, because the tape is there. It may be a situation where the value is way too good to pass up and a player who could have gone Top 15 is there at 22. That’s my lone argument against trading down as an absolute necessity. If it makes better sense based on the way the board has fallen I am good with it, but it’s not Option 1A given the state of the defense. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: I disagree on the pass rusher part and I am wondering if Robinson does too. What I mean is, where would a Joe Tryon have gone in the Draft if he had played this year, because the tape is there. It may be a situation where the value is way too good to pass up and a player who could have gone Top 15 is there at 22. That’s my lone argument against trading down as an absolute necessity. If it makes better sense based on the way the board has fallen I am good with it, but it’s not Option 1A given the state of the defense. Tryon seems like of one of those guys like Orakpo, Morgan, Dupree, etc. with a limited ceiling but who could be a solid pass rusher, but kind of mediocre. Maybe that's just my misperception of him based on what I've read though. I'm kind of tired of just cycling through mediocre pass rushers. And in terms of free agency, that's basically what they're going to be doing unless they get ahold of Von Miller who is maybe a notch above mediocre at this stage. But I also understand that mediocre to above average is better than zilch which is what we have now. Edited March 4, 2021 by tgo IsntLifeFunny, Mythos27, and AvgJoe 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 For those that forgot about Jaylen Twyman. Sat out last season. If he played, there is a good chance he is DL1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Rodgers would be a perfect slot option for us. Don’t know if he makes it to our 2nd round pick though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, titanskick8851 said: Rodgers would be a perfect slot option for us. Don’t know if he makes it to our 2nd round pick though. Just reading about him today. Draft network has him ranked as a 4th rounder. JRob needs to find a third WR (assuming Davis stays) who can make a significant contribution in 2021. Rodgers would seem to be one of those guys. titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 57 minutes ago, titanskick8851 said: Rodgers would be a perfect slot option for us. Don’t know if he makes it to our 2nd round pick though. I'm guessing he'll be around at #53. Somehow I don't think depth of talent at reciever is going to be an issue for this draft. Whether or not they want to wait until the 3rd round to solve this problem is another issue. 2 hours ago, tgo said: Tryon seems like of one of those guys like Orakpo, Morgan, Dupree, etc. with a limited ceiling but who could be a solid pass rusher, but kind of mediocre. Maybe that's just my misperception of him based on what I've read though. I'm kind of tired of just cycling through mediocre pass rushers. And in terms of free agency, that's basically what they're going to be doing unless they get ahold of Von Miller who is maybe a notch above mediocre at this stage. But I also understand that mediocre to above average is better than zilch which is what we have now. Just listening/reading some of the draft stuff, it seems like there's a lot of developmental guys like Rosseau, Owewh, and then there are those solid/mediocre guys that you mentioned. It makes me want them to sign a FA instead (for big money but that first year cap hit can probably be managed). tgo, and titanskick8851 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Matt Miller just sent out his 3 Round Mock including Trades. I was completely on board until our comp pick: 22) Azeez Ojulari (Id prefer Tryon,) 54) Alex Leatherwood 86) Tommy Tremble 101) Kellen Mond.....hell no. Don’t take a QB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Matt Miller just sent out his 3 Round Mock including Trades. I was completely on board until our comp pick: 22) Azeez Ojulari (Id prefer Tryon,) 54) Alex Leatherwood 86) Tommy Tremble 101) Kellen Mond.....hell no. Don’t take a QB Would hate the Ojulari pick. Obviously love the Tremble pick though. Leatherwood I am very meh on and don’t know if he could do well in a zone scheme. As for Mond I would love to take a shot on him in the 6th or 7th round. 3rd Round would be ridiculous for us given the amount of holes we have on the roster. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Matt Miller just sent out his 3 Round Mock including Trades. I was completely on board until our comp pick: 22) Azeez Ojulari (Id prefer Tryon,) 54) Alex Leatherwood 86) Tommy Tremble 101) Kellen Mond.....hell no. Don’t take a QB I'm torn on Ojulari as he is a Landry clone and despite the possibility he is gone in 2022 I think they might be looking for a bigger/longer/more powerful EDGE in this draft. This team is going to have too many holes to be wasting a top 100 pick (this is where the Conklin comp pick is scheduled to be not pick #101). Not a big fan of Leatherwood after watching the Senior Bowl he was very underwhelming in the 1 v 1's. Love the Tremble pick, given the current state of the roster would be shocked if WR isn't one of the first 4 picks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 This is a pretty bad mock. There is no chance that a CB isn't taken within the first 3 rounds. I'm actually ok with the Ojulari pick if they can sign a longer/powerful edge guy in FA. At worst, he should provide some pressure as a 3rd down rusher. And he has more upside than the other edge guys mentioned there but he's not as a raw and could contribute in year 1. They are not taking a QB in the first four rounds. I'd probably go OT or WR with the Conklin comp. Only way I go WR in Round 2 is if Davis is gone and someone they like really drops. Tremble is a fine pick given Jonnu's a free agent and both Swaim and Pruitt are as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, rns90 said: This is a pretty bad mock. There is no chance that a CB isn't taken within the first 3 rounds. I'm actually ok with the Ojulari pick if they can sign a longer/powerful edge guy in FA. At worst, he should provide some pressure as a 3rd down rusher. And he has more upside than the other edge guys mentioned there but he's not as a raw and could contribute in year 1. They are not taking a QB in the first four rounds. I'd probably go OT or WR with the Conklin comp. Only way I go WR in Round 2 is if Davis is gone and someone they like really drops. Tremble is a fine pick given Jonnu's a free agent and both Swaim and Pruitt are as well. What makes you think they won't do this at CB? Butler or Jackson Fulton Slot CB in free agency Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ctm said: What makes you think they won't do this at CB? Butler or Jackson Fulton Slot CB in free agency The draft interests (lots of CB projected to be taken in the first 3 rounds) and the comments about a longer CB by JR lean toward one being taken early. Plus Jackson is an UFA after next year. That being said, your scenario is plausible as well. Hard to know until all the vet cuts come in. They could veer in another direction and take EDGE with 2 of the top 3 picks or whatever. Edited March 4, 2021 by rns90 ctm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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