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Talk of trying to protect America..........     .......while actively trying to infect America. Interesting times.

Already posted but I bet a lot of people don't click the links so didn't see this    

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Just now, Starkiller said:

For?

 

What's good for the goose and all that. That is if the tossing around of big, all-encensoring blankets is going to be a thing now.

You know most of the people on Parler probably weren't inciting violence or calling for civil war, right?

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7 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

What's good for the goose and all that. That is if the tossing around of big, all-encensoring blankets is going to be a thing now.

You know most of the people on Parler probably weren't inciting violence or calling for civil war, right?


AWS provides technology and services to customers across the political spectrum, and we continue to respect Parler’s right to determine for itself what content it will allow on its site. However, we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others. Because Parler cannot comply with our terms of service and poses a very real risk to public safety, we plan to suspend Parler’s account effective Sunday, January 10th, at 11:59PM PST. We will ensure that all of your data is preserved for you to migrate to your own servers, and will work with you as best as we can to help your migration.

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10 minutes ago, SloPoke said:

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Ive never had a problem posting BS on wiki. I've never posted political BS though....

Wikipedia mods generally pull down the BS. Conservatives didn’t like that so they created their own right wing version...

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@NashvilleNinja I don't think you realize the nature of these relationships.

Parler is a itsy bitsy teeny tiny drop in an ocean of AWS revenue.  AWS does not need or care for their business.  Parler was used to plan a violent insurrection.  Parler continues to be used to plan more violent activities.  AWS has no interest or obligation in being connected to such criminal conspiracies.

So now Parler can run their own data center.

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11 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

What's good for the goose and all that. That is if the tossing around of big, all-encensoring blankets is going to be a thing now.

You know most of the people on Parler probably weren't inciting violence or calling for civil war, right?

I’m fine with saying Facebook and Twitter need to start moderating the bullshit better. They didn’t do it for the last few years because they were scared of Trump and Republicans. Now they are going to be scared of the Democrats regulating them.

 

As for Parler, it isn’t a matter of whether most people there were posting criminal shit. All it takes is enough to hit critical mass. And apparently it wasn’t too hard to find.

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1 minute ago, patsplat said:


we continue to respect Parler’s right to determine for itself what content it will allow on its site.

 

1 minute ago, patsplat said:

However, we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others.

 

I wish I could talk out both sides of my mouth that effectively.

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1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

 

I wish I could talk out both sides of my mouth that effectively.

 

You don't understand what you arguing. Parler is not moderating their platform like they are required to do by the acceptable use policy. 

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6 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

I wish I could talk out both sides of my mouth that effectively.

It’s legally approved language for “we aren’t infringing on Parler's legal rights but we are kicking their ass out for violating the terms of service they agreed to.” 

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@NashvilleNinja this policy is pretty much industry standard (see below).  Most places in the United States will have a similar Acceptable Use Policy.  These are crafted based on the legal liabilities for the ISP.

It's hubris to think one can simply run a criminal conspiracy on a private network claiming the First Amendment.  It's certainly possible to get back on the internet, but it's not going to be easy.  Likely they will need to go overseas if hosting terrorist plans is a core product feature.

https://aws.amazon.com/aup/

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No Illegal, Harmful, or Offensive Use or Content


You may not use, or encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to use, the Services or AWS Site for any illegal, harmful, fraudulent, infringing or offensive use, or to transmit, store, display, distribute or otherwise make available content that is illegal, harmful, fraudulent, infringing or offensive. Prohibited activities or content include:

  • Illegal, Harmful or Fraudulent Activities. Any activities that are illegal, that violate the rights of others, or that may be harmful to others, our operations or reputation, including disseminating, promoting or facilitating child pornography, offering or disseminating fraudulent goods, services, schemes, or promotions, make-money-fast schemes, ponzi and pyramid schemes, phishing, or pharming.
  • Infringing Content. Content that infringes or misappropriates the intellectual property or proprietary rights of others.
  • Offensive Content. Content that is defamatory, obscene, abusive, invasive of privacy, or otherwise objectionable, including content that constitutes child pornography, relates to bestiality, or depicts non-consensual sex acts.
  • Harmful Content. Content or other computer technology that may damage, interfere with, surreptitiously intercept, or expropriate any system, program, or data, including viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, or cancelbots.

 

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17 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

You don't understand what you arguing. Parler is not moderating their platform like they are required to do by the acceptable use policy. 

 

Well, AWS'/Google/Apple's acceptable use policies at least.

And it doesn't look like they plan to:
 

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"Sunday (tomorrow) at midnight Amazon will be shutting off all of our servers in an attempt to completely remove free speech off the internet. There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products.

We will try our best to move to a new provider right now as we have many competing for our business, however Amazon, Google and Apple purposefully did this as a coordinated effort knowing our options would be limited and knowing this would inflict the most damage right as President Trump was banned from the tech companies.

This was a coordinated attack by the tech giants to kill competition in the market place. We were too successful too fast. You can expect the war on competition and free speech to continue, but don’t count us out
." - John Matze


 

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