wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oldschool said: Total yards for a RB is a pretty good stat. What is your argument otherwise? Total yards just means he still gets enough carries or doesn't get injured unless he is off the charts on a ypc basis which is clearly a much better stat on how much they actually help the team... It's all context obviously Henry is near the top of the league in yards (because volume), it's just a fact to point out. Not something to brag about how good he is. Edited November 12, 2020 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: Total yards just means he still gets enough carries or doesn't get injured unless he is off the charts on a ypc basis which is clearly a much better stat on how much they actually help the team... It's all context obviously Henry is near the top of the league in yards (because volume), it's just a fact to point out. Not something to brag about how good he is. Fair. Obviously ypc in conjunction with volume of carries are a factor in total yards. I think its a little off to say yards don't matter. It's not like Henry is averaging 3 ypc while being 2nd in rushing yards. Henry is still the best of the non all around RBs. I'll say it again, this team needs to stop trying to make him into an all around back. McNichols and Foreman have earned more carries in my opionion. Its a shame Evans can't get in the field as he would give the offense the one thing its really missing in a pass catching RB. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, oldschool said: Fair. Obviously ypc in conjunction with volume of carries are a factor in total yards. I think its a little off to say yards don't matter. It's not like Henry is averaging 3 ypc while being 2nd in rushing yards. Henry is still the best of the non all around RBs. I'll say it again, this team needs to stop trying to make him into an all around back. McNichols and Foreman have earned more carries in my opionion. Its a shame Evans can't get in the field as he would give the offense the one thing its really missing in a pass catching RB. I don't think they try to make him an all-purpose back though, He leads the league in carries but Titans are dead last in the NFL in terms of targeting their RB. Only the Jets target their most passed to RB less than us too. I agree with you though that he has too many carries early on and we don't use him as the closer role that he really shines in (i think that's what you are getting at). I have no problem with the amount of touches that Henry gets, I just won't ever brag when that player is near the top of the league in yards. If a player leads the league in both carries by a long shot and also has the longest carry, that player is without a doubt gonna be the leagues leading rusher. It's just not something to be impressed about to me though. I'm probably downplaying it, but at least I am providing context compared to just blindly telling people he leads the league in rushing. Edited November 12, 2020 by wiscotitansfan oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: That still averages out to 21 carries a game without those first three weeks. Nowhere near worth whining over a 2 down RB getting the ball too little Disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Does anyone remember which game it was where Jonnu got a catch very early in the game and he cut up-field and seemed to be easily the fastest person on the field till he ran into some secondary like 15 yards upfield? I think there may have been a flag even. I remember a couple posters in the game thread simultaneously mentioning how he switched a gear that made him look just faster than everyone around him. Want to check that out again with gamepass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: Total yards DOESN'T MATTER. It's not a valid point to argue for someone's effectiveness.... It seems like you try to make anyone who disagrees with you look like they hate Henry because you use such simple ideas to prove someone's value. Henry is fine, even better than that too. But total yards is not a reasonable point to make almost ever unless you are talking about career longevity Total yards DO matter because those yards reflect plays that helped the team progress towards the goal of an offense which is to score points. If total yards "didn't matter" every legitimate football site wouldn't track it as a stat. Now, that doesn't mean that total yards are the most important stat, or even one of the most representative of good play; efficiency stats for example are more reflective (and I've said that a million times at this point). This is why I have no problem saying that despite Cook and Henry only being separated by less than 50 rushing yards, Cook's efficiency shows he's been much better. I don't make anyone feel like anything. You're responsible for your own feelings. You're a grown ass man. You decided to quote me, misrepresent what I was saying as if you had some brilliant point no one else has ever thought of, and then got sensitive when I had the nerve to directly respond to you. I'm not the one with the problem. I also don't think you're a hater, I just think you're wrong and trying way too hard to make me look dumb or something. It's not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I just think you're wrong and trying way too hard to make me look dumb or something. It's not working. I called you out for just straight up being wrong about facts and then you went into a diatribe about how you weren't.... After that was when all the whining on both of our sides happened. You value total yards more than me. Period. We're done with this exchange. Edited November 12, 2020 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, wiscotitansfan said: I simply called you out for just straight up being wrong about facts and then you went into a diatribe about how you weren't.... After that was when all the whining on both of our sides happened. You value total yards more than me. Period. We're done with this exchange. No. Had you offered a simple correction to my stat (which was outdated by like 2 days) like oldschool did, it would've been fine. I've never minded being corrected. You misrepresented my including Henry being the leading rusher as if I was saying that for that sole reason he was the best back in the league when that was not the point I was making. Then you proceeded to be condescending dick about a stat that was largely irrelevant to my point and you didn't even know was inaccurate until oldschool pointed it out. But yeah, I'm done with this exchange now too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mythos27 said: Then you proceeded to be condescending dick about a stat that was largely irrelevant to my point and you didn't even know was inaccurate until oldschool pointed it out. Huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: Huh? Scratch that. Keep the rest though. wiscotitansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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