TorontoTitan Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Should he be considered a Belichick disciple because of his playing career or do you have to coach under somebody to be part of their coaching tree? If so, would he be part of Urban Meyer or BOB's coaching tree? The most common belief seems to be that he was most heavily influenced by Belichick and Patriots culture. This makes sense and would align with J Rob et al. FWIW, I think Vrabel is his own man because a super alpha CEO like Vrabes cannot be groomed. He is just born that way. Edited October 21, 2020 by TorontoTitan ChemEngr79, and chef 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 You have to have been on their coaching staff to really be part of their tree imo Makaveli, oldschool, Number9, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I would say he’s clearly learned more from Belichick than O’Brien, or at least learned enough from both to not fall into BoB’s direct pitfalls. He’s literally the best branch from that tree if so. I feel like he’s inherited the Belichick coaching spirit more than anything, but of course he asked Bill questions and paid attention as a player. He’s said that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Titans279 said: You have to have been on their coaching staff to really be part of their tree imo Not really the more I think of it. It’s disciple of, and so on, and that makes the branches. Unless we’re taking immediate trees. Small trees. Like is Fisher a Walsh disciple, and Gregg Williams and Munchak, or is he a Ditka/Buddy Ryan disciple, or is he both? These are more like tangled vines, honestly. Horrible question! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, TorontoTitan said: Should he be considered a Belichick disciple because of his playing career or do you have to coach under somebody to be part of their coaching tree? If so, would he be part of Urban Meyer or BOB's coaching tree? The most common belief seems to be that he was most heavily influenced by Belichick and Patriots culture. This makes sense and would align with J Rob et al. FWIW, I think Vrabel is his own man because a super alpha CEO like Vrabes cannot be groomed. He is just born that way. Mike Vrabel is a fatherless tree. animatormike, and wiscotitansfan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Reading about Vrabel under a Urban Meyer is very interesting. Bill may have influenced him in his playing career and early on in coaching, but Urban seems to be the one who really jump started his rise from what I’ve read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 He was never a coach for Bill. He just played for him. Vrabel has traits but has his own ideas and creativity. Vrabel is Vrabel. As mentioned. He reminds me more of a less stoic Urban Meyer. I only know Urban when he coached the Utes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, GLinks said: Mike Vrabel is a fatherless tree. Yeshua Tree? GLinks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 They were talking a lot about how close he and Crennel are/were; Crennel goes back to Parcells in his heyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NashvilleNinja Posted October 21, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Whether or not he's actually considered a Belichick tree coach, he's sure as shit not from BoB's tree even if he did coach under him. There's just no correlation in how Vrabel coaches and how BoB coached. For one thing, Vrabel is currently coaching. BoB is not. For another, Vrabel has made good decisions. BoB has not. Also, and probably most importantly, BoB has a giant asshole for a chin. Vrabel does not. GLinks, Btowner, MadMax, and 3 others 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, GLinks said: Mike Vrabel is a fatherless tree. An acorn that rolled down the hill and grew into its own mighty oak, under the shade of none other. NashvilleNinja, GLinks, and Number9 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Supdawg Posted October 21, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Vrabel was created by the midi-chlorians. He has no tree. Starkiller, Jonboy, titanskick8851, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Supdawg said: Vrabel was created by the midi-chlorians. He has no tree. Well, we know he's willing to cut his "root" off for a Lombardi... NashvilleNinja, and chef 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 I think there is some Belichick DNA mixed in with all the others... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Yeshua Tree? Yeshu Yeshua Yahshua Yehōshu’a Joshua Still my favorite U2 album, and my actual name. Edited October 21, 2020 by GLinks chef, and NashvilleNinja 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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