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8 minutes ago, freakingeek said:

In the Buffalo game, the defense kept everything in front of them. They gave up the 3-5 yard gains but kept the Bills in a lot of 3rd down situations. They made them drive the field and limited their big plays. It was a great game plan. I think our pass rush will get better and the secondary will as well, especially when we got Adoree back. If that happens we could be dominant. The good news is the offense is putting enough points on the board to give us a good chance to win every game.  As the defense gets better, this will be a very hard team to beat. We have a good mix of vets and young players, great team chemistry, solid depth and a top notch coaching staff. This is going to be a fun ride.

Tackling was definitely way better. We shut down Singletary.

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1 hour ago, smokeater said:

This defense will improve as players get healthy.  Third downs will get better.  Some of you who say you've been watching football all your life and our defense doesn't pass the eye test---things are way different now than they used to be and we will never see defenses like the '85 bears or circa '00 Ravens again due to the rule changes.  There will certainly be defenses that are better than others, obviously, but you have to look at it through a different lens now.

 

Also, this whole holding thing being legal now at the los is a game changer.  There's always been holding, but the OL knows now they can get away with a little more, and that's literally all it takes to keep the pocket intact long enough for a guy to come open.  Just pick the heaviest OL with the strongest hand grip in the draft and you'll have an impenetrable wall for the QB-exaggerating, but not as much as you might think if things keep going this way. 

 

The only thing that really matters is points allowed.  Looks like the team is 5th in points allowed right now. Granted we've only played 4 games, but so has Pittsburgh who's considered a good defense, and they've given up 87 to the Titans 90.  

 

Bottomline, in this day and age, this defense is good enough right now to go on a long playoff run and barring further injury they should only be getting better as the year progresses.

 

The 2000 Ravens feasted on having a larger division that had the worst offenses in the league. They were a great D but are overrated. 

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3 hours ago, Makaveli said:

As far as judging the defense it is hard. It's been pretty lackluster imo. We have yet to face a top 15 qb. But as somebody said, we have been missing starters. And other defenses have struggled. But I'm not sure the extent the crowd plays into that...Sure, I know crowd noise means its harder for qbs to communicate, but imo not having a real off-season and pre season is probably the bigger reason. I think we will start seeing offensive numbers and points start declining. Remember offenses are always ahead of the defense in terms of cohesion. 

 

The Titans have a few unknowns on defense. Will we improve once players come back?? Is Clowney and Beasley just not in game shape & are they going to eventually dominate?? Is Vrabel better than he was in Houston??

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2 hours ago, Titanstattoo25 said:

Evans and Brown haven’t been very good so far this year. More so Evans than Brown. 


Evans just misses too many tackles in space. Mahomes made him look like straight garbage in the AFCCG. Unless he’s tackling in the hole or in the back field he’s no good

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2 hours ago, Maker84 said:


Evans just misses too many tackles in space. Mahomes made him look like straight garbage in the AFCCG. Unless he’s tackling in the hole or in the back field he’s no good

 

Pretty sure he was injured in afccg. Back to your usual drivel

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Best thing that ever happened to us was Bowen getting Covid-19. Vrabel fixed a lot of issues in a short time with less staff. 

 

I expect our sack numbers to look a lot better after Sunday. Big Jeff got a rest. Clowney facing old team. Before facing the Jags, Watson sacked 4 times per game (17 on the year.) 

 

We need to press the shit our of Brandin Cooks and put a safety over the top. That should allow the sack to develop. 

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4 hours ago, DecepticonShawn said:

 

Pretty sure he was injured in afccg. Back to your usual drivel

 

Ok? That excuse doesn't help him this season and his poor play

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11 hours ago, SleepingTitan said:

Best thing that ever happened to us was Bowen getting Covid-19. Vrabel fixed a lot of issues in a short time with less staff. 

 

I expect our sack numbers to look a lot better after Sunday. Big Jeff got a rest. Clowney facing old team. Before facing the Jags, Watson sacked 4 times per game (17 on the year.) 

 

We need to press the shit our of Brandin Cooks and put a safety over the top. That should allow the sack to develop. 

 

We never press so that's not going to happen.

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I think Pees really rubbed off on Vrabel. In his one year in Houston as DC Vrabel apparently blitzed like a lunatic, using all kinds of exotic looks, and got torched. Granted they had major injuries but still. Pees is one of the more conservative DC’s but was so good with different zone looks, he just really makes offenses work for everything.
 

Fans love blitzing, and some teams do it very well, but over the years the majority of the best defenses rush 4. It becomes even more important in the playoffs, you just can’t blitz the shit out of the best QB’s in multiple games. Especially with QB’s who can move & already have more defined reads.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Face said:

I think Pees really rubbed off on Vrabel. In his one year in Houston as DC Vrabel apparently blitzed like a lunatic, using all kinds of exotic looks, and got torched. Granted they had major injuries but still. Pees is one of the more conservative DC’s but was so good with different zone looks, he just really makes offenses work for everything.
 

Fans love blitzing, and some teams do it very well, but over the years the majority of the best defenses rush 4. It becomes even more important in the playoffs, you just can’t blitz the shit out of the best QB’s in multiple games. Especially with QB’s who can move & already have more defined reads.

 

 

 

Gotta have the front 4 to consistently get pressure, we aren't quite there yet.

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55 minutes ago, Guts said:

 

Gotta have the front 4 to consistently get pressure, we aren't quite there yet.


Sacks aren’t everything but it would be nice to pick up a few more. I’d bet we play more contain & rush the passer in a “safer” manner then just about any team in the league. Some teams prioritize sacks & are willing to live with over rushing the QB or losing contain, where some big plays happen. We don’t. But there’s enough talent on this DL to get a good amount more pressure & if we do, we could be real tough when Adoree comes back.

 

Were also probably the perfect system for Clowney, it’s a great match. He could be a great edge player for us for years averaging only 3-5 sacks with the way he pressures the QB without using a wide rush, and t he way he sets the edge.

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3 minutes ago, Face said:


Sacks aren’t everything but it would be nice to pick up a few more. I’d bet we play more contain & rush the passer in a “safer” manner then just about any team in the league. Some teams prioritize sacks & are willing to live with over rushing the QB or losing contain, where some big plays happen. We don’t. But there’s enough talent on this DL to get a good amount more pressure & if we do, we could be real tough when Adoree comes back.

 

Were also probably the perfect system for Clowney, it’s a great match. He could be a great edge player for us for years averaging only 3-5 sacks with the way he pressures the QB without using a wide rush, and t he way he sets the edge.

 

Sacks would be nice, just isn't the defense we play.  We aren't a penetrating defense, Vrabel prefers the lineman hold their ground especially in running situations (outside of goalline).

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If Simmons and Jones can get a push and flush Watson into Clowney, etc. it would be nice. The one thing we can't do is let him run right by us in the middle. Tanne better be on point today and put up some numbers.

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1 hour ago, Guts said:

 

Gotta have the front 4 to consistently get pressure, we aren't quite there yet.

I think we do when everyone is healthy.  Last week, we were getting pressure on Josh Allen, but Simmons was sorely missed in the middle.  I can't wait to see Simmons against Houston.

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