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Some discussion on Darnold/Ryan here and how its unlikely either gets moved before the trade deadline.

 

Another interesting little bit from Albert Breer he put the spotlight on Ballard and the Colts about making a massive trade up in the 2021 Draft to get their QB of the future.

 

 

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8 hours ago, BeedoeLaw said:

We would not have to trade for this guy, but he might be worth a look. He was a monster before his suspension for weed. The league does not test for weed anymore.

 

I'd at least kick the tires. 


They still test for weed, they just don’t suspend players for it now.

 

And he said he was retired, though now that his suspension has been lifted maybe he will come out of retirement. He would at least be worth a tryout.

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On 10/16/2020 at 11:58 AM, Callidus said:

We don't have enough balls to go around now.

I don't think we'd have a problem creating balls to go around. Arthur Smith isn't Les Steckel and this isn't 1999. Besides, Henry is a beast but he will start his decline sooner or later. The offense will need to morph to fit that reality.

 

If JRob has shown us anything with Jurell Casey he's shown us that he's not averse to getting somewhat of a head start on things like that. 

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On 10/16/2020 at 3:20 AM, Guts said:

 

Bree's clearly isn't playing at a high level anymore, and probably doesn't want to go through a rebuild.  Look at his tweet history it's not looking good right now.

 

I feel this sort of situation usually plays out a little longer than by the trade deadline in the current season - he'll probably have to hang tight for a while. Not to mention his cap penalty is $26M - $6M this season and $20M next season. I'm not sure of the Saints cap situation, but few teams could take that hit comfortably, especially with the salary cap likely going down in 2021 - apparently the Saints are already in a bad position cap wise for 2021 so trading him seems impossible.

 

 

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Actually, maybe Thomas' contract situation isn't so bad for a trade right now:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/michael-thomas-18996/

 

If you expand his 2020 details (curiously, you do this by pressing the red "X"), it says his post 01/06 trade will actually save $1M in cap for the Saints this season, but as mentioned, cost $20M in dead money in 2021. However, he was already scheduled to have a cap hit of $18.8M in 2021, and that $1M they save this season could be carried over to 2021, so I think this means if he's traded now, it's almost identical to keeping him for 2021 cap wise - they'd be $200K worse off cap wise for 2021, which is not worth worrying about. If they plan to go full rebuild mode, then the choice seems to be - keep Thomas for it, or get picks for him instead.

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5 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 


Zach Cunningham just signed a new contract this year. Trading him would generate a lot of dead cap space next year.

 

But I can certainly see them having a fire sale this year to try to get some draft picks back.

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On 10/16/2020 at 10:29 AM, Guts said:

 

Probably not that significant, because if they truly want to trade him and can't find a suitor it would just sour the relationship even more doing that voided his guarantees.  I still highly doubt they are serious about trading him, but Thomas clearly isn't happy.

If they had voided his guarantees, would they be restored if he were traded. Sure would have made it easier to trade him if they stayed voided.

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