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You can set an example that will scare every other front office without destroying a team. The rumors by Florio are way too extreme if true. Way overboard.

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12 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said:

If JRob did get suspended, we thankfully still have Cowden.

 

No idea who would take over for Vrabel. Haslett has experience and wouldn’t disrupt Bowden’s and Smith’s process I suppose.

 

Honestly who cares if jrob gets suspended for the season. Losing Vrabel is much more impactful.

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7 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Homers. The suspected punishment is fine. This is a big fucking deal. People could die as a result of the irresponsible actions of the Titans brass.

You’re associating the punishment severity with the public health threat. The NFL is most certainly associating it with the financial threat. 

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7 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Honestly who cares if jrob gets suspended for the season. Losing Vrabel is much more impactful.

Exactly. 

 

Can you imagine though if this was the Cowboys and they suspended Jerry Jones, the Cowboys would win 3 super bowls in a row!

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1 minute ago, titaninpgh said:

You’re associating the punishment severity with the public health threat. The NFL is most certainly associating it with the financial threat. 

 

Either way the Titans deserve the hammer for their gross negligence. All the excuse making is laughable.

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7 minutes ago, Righteous said:

Goodell will make an example out of us like he did with Pacman Jones.  I hate it!!

And the Saints. Remember a couple years after bountygate a Vikings player admitted they had a similar payment system on the defense. Crickets. 

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Just now, oldschool said:

 

Either way the Titans deserve the hammer for their gross negligence. All the excuse making is laughable.

My personal belief is that there’s not much restorative or transformative about huge fines, suspensions, and draft pick loss. Forfeiting games or banning from the playoffs feels like it would be a more appropriate way of compensating other teams for the Titans infractions. Of course, it’s hard to do that equitably. In terms of restoring trust with the Nashville community, where they have acted as a potential super spreader, they should go through a process with local community leaders (Mayor/city council, Vanderbilt, NGOs, etc) to help beef up the covid response. I’m fully aware that’s not reflective of our societal or sports punitive norms.

 

In a punishment rather than restorative/transformative framework, the punishment is supposed to match the harm done and/or threatened. The public health harms DONE vs NFL financial harms THREATENED are very different and would warrant different punishments.

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As a Titan fan, losing a first round pick will really suck.  That previously was punishment for competitive advantage/cheating type infractions.  Considering how this impacts the league though, it won't surprise me.  Hopefully it isn't two firsts.

 

If Robinson/Vrabel have not been enforcing masks, not following NFL instructions, etc., then they should consider themselves lucky if they only get suspensions for the rest of the year.

 

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The chorus is too loud now not to make this a historic punishment. It's not just the NFL media tasting blood it's league insiders and owners now too. The Titans whether completely fairly or not will be seen to have disrupted the product, which no team has ever done to this extent before. It will be historic and will stand as the measurement for all punishments for a long long time.

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1 minute ago, OzTitan said:

The chorus is too loud now not to make this a historic punishment. It's not just the NFL media tasting blood it's league insiders and owners now too. The Titans whether completely fairly or not will be seen to have disrupted the product, which no team has ever done to this extent before. It will be historic and will stand as the measurement for all punishments for a long long time.

And they deserve it too.  It pains me to type that.  But how fucking hard is it to just adhere to these guidelines that the league has put forward?

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Just now, OzTitan said:

The chorus is too loud now not to make this a historic punishment. It's not just the NFL media tasting blood it's league insiders and owners now too. The Titans whether completely fairly or not will be seen to have disrupted the product, which no team has ever done to this extent before. It will be historic and will stand as the measurement for all punishments for a long long time.

 

They have disrupted the product.... ifnthe NFL protocols were so bad we wouldn't have had to wait till week 3 of the season to see an outbreak. There are too many people going home to their families and spheres of influence eveynight across 32 teams for an outbreak to not have occurred previously. The blatant disregard of protocol is a big deal. 

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Another way to incorporate draft picks that feels more restorative: The offending team has to give the affected team one of their draft picks if a game is postponed to a later week or cancelled. For example, Titans could have to give the Steelers a 4th round pick for rescheduling to later, and give the Bills a 3rd round pick if the game is postponed to a week 18, and give a 2nd round pick to a team for any game cancelled.

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