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5 minutes ago, pamo9 said:

People will only remember he's a rude lying overtalker

 

 

 


I understand the over talking point, but he was not rude tonally nor on message, and most non hyper partisans wouldn’t see his performance as rude.

 

But dead wrong on the issues, and he was constantly lying, and not being called out at all, his lying was just totally normalized. He even lied about her own words and she just ignored it and left it unanswered. 

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He’s a piece of shit.

Damn.   

Jesus, you're a moron.

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Just now, oldschool said:

 

She's a senator and made it through the brutal gauntlet that is Cali politics. To say she's not a good politician is false. Now is she President material? Right now I'd say no but she has time to turn it around.

 

Yeah, I think she is smart enough to pick up 3-4 things to improve on tonight that could help in 2024. She was a little uneven and left some point on the field in the first half.

 

However, she did what she needed to for 2020.

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4 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

This debate doesn’t really change much of anything. 

 

A draw advantages the party in the lead...

 

Pence need a KO and mutliple gaffes to move the needle...didn't happen.

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5 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

She could have had plenty of better responses, but you could have said the same of Biden last week


Yeah he missed plenty of opportunities on those two things as well. 
 

Biden was much better at responding forcefully to the lies though. But then again, he’s not a black woman having to deal with all the stigma and criticism of any perceived overreach. 
 

Interestingly, Santorum making a good point on CNN that Kamala’s lack of aggression and forceful response was strategic and the right approach when you’re playing with a 10 point lead. 

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