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1 minute ago, Justafan said:

This definitely shifts power back to conservatives in the SC.  It will be interesting to see what cases come to the supreme court now that interested parties wouldn't pursue before because they knew they couldn't get the outcome they wanted.  This will definitely change political dynamics for a generation or more.  

 

the ACA is dead as early as the October session and Roe v Wade will follow in 2021. 

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25 minutes ago, oldschool said:

if you are paying attention to the Sunday Morning Talk circuit, you know the Stupid Democrats are doing exactly what I feared they would do. Stop focusing on the hypocrisy of McConnell and the GOP. Stop appealing to McConnell, Graham, and Cruze to honor their words and to uphold the principles they claim to govern by. You were outplayed 4 years ago, the voters gave us Trump, and you are about to be outplayed again; Start fighting back. The America you are appealing to doesn't exist anymore. The GOP has defined the Liberals as anti-business, baby killing, socialist anarchists and all you respond with is trying to appeal to logic and principle? Fucking idiots.

There are enough Republicans on record as being against this that making the public argument still makes sense...  There's really no other choice....  Unless murkowski, Romney, and 1-2 others vote against it ....nothing can stop them.

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28 minutes ago, OzTitan said:

 

Lindsey did say that. Then listen what he said after that also.

 

He said this before Trump was even the nominee. Opinions of politicians change in 4 yrs. There are many examples. No new taxes. Marriage is between a man and woman. Etc etc etc.

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9 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

What rules did the GOP change?

The rule about 60 votes needed to confirm a SCOTUS justice. That was changed to make it where a simple majority was needed. And that rule was changed by the GOP. 

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8 minutes ago, VaTitan said:

There are enough Republicans on record as being against this that making the public argument still makes sense...  There's really no other choice....  Unless murkowski, Romney, and 1-2 others vote against it ....nothing can stop them.

 

Thats the point. They should be engaging with Collins, Murkowski, Romney, and a few others behind closed doors while making it known publicly there will be repercussions  if the GOP goes down this road. Appealing to principle is a non starter. Honestly I don't think anything can stop McConnell. He knows he's on borrowed time with American demographics and the best way to delay it from happening is to stack the courts. It's his endgame and he's close to achieving it. 

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 

Thats the point. They should be engaging with Collins, Murkowski, Romney, and a few others behind closed doors while making it known publicly there will be repercussions  if the GOP goes down this road. Appealing to principle is a non starter. Honestly I don't think anything can stop McConnell. He knows he's on borrowed time with American demographics and the best way to delay it from happening is to stack the courts. It's his endgame and he's close to achieving it. 

Collins and Murkowski have come out on record as saying a confirmation should wait until after the election. 

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The more you read the more you see RGB knew what was going to happen as she was dying. She had to feel pretty guilty in her last weeks 

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3 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Collins and Murkowski have come out on record as saying a confirmation should wait until after the election. 

 

They need 2 more. I think Romney joins them so that leaves one of the vulnerable senators. I also think McConneel cares more about pushing this appointment through than he does winning the presidential election or keeping the senate. Pushing it through means a huge conservative slant on the court for decades or generations. He'll gladly give up the short term gains that come with this election cycle if it means cementing control of the Judiciary long term.

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7 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Collins and Murkowski have come out on record as saying a confirmation should wait until after the election. 

 

Murkowski actually said after the president is inaugurated

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