Can anyone name a good reason to call police?

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21 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

You’ve already rushed to judgement putting the onus on the mom and the kid. Don’t lie. 

Regardless of the police action, they are culpable in this based on what is known.  The mom already was caught with her own words contradicting herself and little Rain Man probably shouldn't be threatening others with violence with a weapon and then disobeying police commands.  Common sense tells you that if the kid is so out of control that whatever the parent is doing isn't working....It's undeniable that they are a big part of this specific situation.

[IsntLifeFunny]

I’m done arguing about this. You definitely aren’t 100% correct. Find some nuance and work on empathy. 

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

Hey @BudAdams you dumbass some mentally ill people aren't able to self regulate and get into situations where they can't modify their behavior. Now shut the fuck up before you get owned even further. 

Wrong.  It may be true that this behavior can spiral out of control but that's not the fault of the police or society now is it......  If someone is so mentally ill that they cannot self regulate or modify their behavior, then they should be in a facility as opposed to tormenting their neighborhood.  When this DOESN'T happen, the mentally ill person could get harmed by the authorities, which is exactly what happened. 

 

The mom is clearly downplaying her kid's problems because she chose to go by the parenting autistic kids by dummies book and ignored it until it was too late.  Too sad too bad....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I’m done arguing about this. You definitely aren’t 100% correct. Find some nuance and work on empathy. 

Disagree.  How about some empathy for people being terrorized by this mentally ill person? 

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3 minutes ago, BudAdams said:

Wrong.  It may be true that this behavior can spiral out of control but that's not the fault of the police or society now is it......  If someone is so mentally ill that they cannot self regulate or modify their behavior, then they should be in a facility as opposed to tormenting their neighborhood.  When this DOESN'T happen, the mentally ill person could get harmed by the authorities, which is exactly what happened. 

 

The mom is clearly downplaying her kid's problems because she chose to go by the parenting autistic kids by dummies book and ignored it until it was too late.  Too sad too bad....

 

 

 

 

 

 

One ignorant statement after another. You sound like a 60 year white dude who doesn't know shit about mental health, parenting, or human decency. Congrats on showing your ass. This will follow you around this board till the day you die. 

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11 minutes ago, oldschool said:

One ignorant statement after another. You sound like a 60 year white dude who doesn't know shit about mental health, parenting, or human decency. Congrats on showing your ass. This will follow you around this board till the day you die. 

LOL!

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Here is the problem with this situation and defending the police in all these situations. 

 

The Cops arrive on the situation and shoot this kid and then the argument is what he might have had or done. Same with the guy they shot in the back, he might have gotten a knife out of his car, or the guy running with the discharged tazer......

 

The cops are allowed to kill people based on some hypothetical situation that might have possibly happened? They shouldn't be allowed to kill first then decide whether they may have been in danger.

 

Remember the cop killing the guy laying in the hall of the hotel? The cop told him to lay still or he'd shoot him. The guy barely moved and the cop killed him although he was no threat at all. 

 

The cops should only be able to kill when there is a real threat. If the cops can't asses the situation and determine whether it's a real threat they aren't fit to be cops. 

 

The cops never face repercussions either so they know they can shoot first. Even after the George Floyd's death cops are still killing people without cause 

 

 

[ctm]

The standard for use of deadly force by police is an imminent threat to the life of the officer or the public.

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11 minutes ago, ctm said:

The standard for use of deadly force by police is an imminent threat to the life of the officer or the public.

 

That's what it's suppose to be

[oldschool]

24 minutes ago, ctm said:

The standard for use of deadly force by police is an imminent threat to the life of the officer or the public.

And its invoked far too often 

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Should the officer have waited for this nutjob to stab him?  Maybe he just needed a hug?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BudAdams said:

Should the officer have waited for this nutjob to stab him?  Maybe he just needed a hug?

 

 

Of course not, no one would argue that, this is a clear case of justifiable force. 
 

These aren’t the cases that People get upset about. 

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44 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Of course not, no one would argue that, this is a clear case of justifiable force. 
 

These aren’t the cases that People get upset about. 

Yet there were protests......

 

I want to see the cop body cam footage of the crazy SLC kid encounter before I say the police over-reached.

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23 minutes ago, BudAdams said:

Yet there were protests......

 

I want to see the cop body cam footage of the crazy SLC kid encounter before I say the police over-reached.

... you won't.  Not will you see body cam footage of the shooting of Portland suspect.

 

Body cams put the viewer literally in the police officer's pov.  As a form of evidence it has a slight bias in favor of the police.  But even then it can be too incriminating for the police being obviously abusive of their powers.

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6 minutes ago, patsplat said:

... you won't.  Not will you see body cam footage of the shooting of Portland suspect.

 

Body cams put the viewer literally in the police officer's pov.  As a form of evidence it has a slight bias in favor of the police.  But even then it can be too incriminating for the police being obviously abusive of their powers.

 

Actually I think body cams are something everyone wants; we need to find the funding to make it happen. Case in point the DC shooting a few weeks ago where the body cam footage showed the perpetrator with a handgun that he was swinging around to bear on the Police officer. Of couse you have some idiots from Southeast DC protesting sayinf he was throwing the gun away but for the most part, things quieted down as soon the footage was released. The use of body cams protects both the police and the communities they serve. Its a no brainer both sides should get behind.