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1 minute ago, Maker84 said:

 

Teams are using the same exact game plan the Chiefs did defensively vs Henry. The passing game should be available every play and a big reason why we lost that game is Vrabel trying to run Henry when it just wasn't there. The passing game needs to be the focus as this team becomes more of a pass first offense. 

 

No. You don't make that mistake. You play to your identity. If teams take away the run you set them up then run play action. Which is what we did.

 

Just because a team "gives you the pass" doesn't mean they keep giving it. There's more strategy to this than that.

 

You don't think a defense will bait out throws from formations that look geared to stop the run? It's not that simple. 

 

Which is why you have to play to your strengths and don't just abandon things at the first sign of adversity.

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2 minutes ago, patsplat said:

Yes the old "score touchdowns every drive" defense shuts the run down every time.

 

They weren't stopping the Titans either until the Titans went away from the passing game

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The greatest RB in the league needs at least a small hole to work with or will get stuffed. Henry has very good vision, but if there’s zero hole, what’s a back to do?

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6 minutes ago, Maker84 said:

 

They weren't stopping the Titans either until the Titans went away from the passing game

 

Oh god ... we were losing that game either way let it go. 

 

Once again, we are being seduced by our disease: "Franchise QB-Itis" we get visions of Joe Montana as soon as a new QB flashes. We don't know what Tannehill 100% is yet ... let him grow. And if he continues to show he can carry us from "OBVIOUS" passing situations it will become his team.

 

Then guess what?

 

  1. Paying running backs no longer becomes a necessity, you can draft and rotate them - like th eChiefs and Seahawks do.
  2. Establishing the run no longer becomes a necessity you simple open up the play book.

 

But Tannehill has to continue to prove it this season. And when he has to throw it 30 plus times there better be no turnovers or numerous sacks or the coaches will pull back. That's how it's going to work with a QB who has had struggles carrying a team on his back too frequently.

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3 minutes ago, big2033 said:

We don't know what Tannehill 100% is yet ... let him grow. And if he continues to show he can carry us from "OBVIOUS" passing situations it will become his team.

 

He's there

 

 

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5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

He's there

 

 

 

So we're going from averaging 20-something passes per game to 30-40 from a QB that has had years of struggling when having to completely shoulder an offense?

 

It doesn't make sense.

 

Our passing game is still based on efficiency, YAC and one-on-one situations based on play action. 

 

I think we want it to happen for no reason other than pleasing our own childlike desire to have a star QB.

 

Believe it or not we did this with Mariota and got frustrated about his attempts. Obviously Tannehill is 10-times better but still, Tannehill will have his chance to "takeover" and then he better perform.

 

Then Henry becomes expendable and we can do what the QB franchises do when it comes to running backs ... they have that luxury.

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Honestly, with the way Henry is running, teams would be better off trying the no PA defense Belichick ran in the playoffs and see if Henry can beat you. 

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32 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Remember all the people in the media questioning why the team paid Tannehill before Henry and Henry was the focal point of the offense? Ridiculous and stupid opinions and it's hard to believe people who cover the NFL would be that stupid. 

 

I'm not going to kill Robinson for this deal but I hate the fact Henry's salary is guaranteed next year and he's counting 13.5 mill next season. 

 

The Titans would be 2-0 with a large number of RBs and Henry is likely the 4th or 5th most important player on offense. 

 

Assuming Evans can pass block well enough I'll also go ahead and say the offense will be better and more versatile with him on the field over Henry. 

 

Way too much credit was given to Henry on last year's run and not enough to the OL, Henry was running through gaping holes. 

 

I'm not hating on Henry I'm more hating on the position, a 2 down RB. There just not that valuable and so easily replaceable. 

To be fair he is still averaging 100 a game (2 game I know at a 3.5 or whatever clip). But that puts him on a pace for 1600 yards so what's the problem? Not saying he is the offense like others do but even meh henry is on pace for a good year.

 

If this is his slow star I will take it.

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2 minutes ago, japan said:

Honestly, with the way Henry is running, teams would be better off trying the no PA defense Belichick ran in the playoffs and see if Henry can beat you. 

 

Probably. But how do you know how he's going to play any given week?

 

When does he completely gash you as historically he has done when given big holes? 

 

Football is a chess match.

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Just now, big2033 said:

 

Probably. But how do you know how he's going to play?

He’s kind of stunk it up early every season hasn’t he?

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Just now, big2033 said:

So we're going from averaging 20-something passes per game to 30-40 from a QB that has had years of struggling when having to completely shoulder an offense?

 

Our passing game is still based on efficiency, YAC and one-on-one situations based on play action. 

 

Every passing game is based on efficiency, number of passes don't mean anything.  

 

And the Titans run scheme and offensive strategy would be the same with or without Henry. You think The Titans couldn't run the ball if they didn't have Henry? Of course they still could. 

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1 minute ago, japan said:

He’s kind of stunk it up early every season hasn’t he?

 

So ... as a defensive coordinator ... you rely on Henry being a slow starter when Marcus Mariota was QB? 

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1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Every passing game is based on efficiency, number of passes don't mean anything.  

 

And the Titans run scheme and offensive strategy would be the same with or without Henry. You think The Titans couldn't run the ball if they didn't have Henry? Of course they still could. 

 

That's what you say but talent at the position matters ... period. The Super Bowl Chiefs just spent a first round pick on one. So it's not just throws some UFAs out there and run at brick walls then use PA.


Obviously talent is a factor here in getting big chunks from the run game and causing defenses to bite more effectively.

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Just now, big2033 said:

 

So ... as a defensive coordinator ... you rely on Henry being a slow starter when Marcus Mariota was QB? 

Belichick knew who he needed to stop back even when Henry was killing people. And it would have worked if Edelman could catch an easy pass. 

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