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2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I haven’t really understood his argument the entire time. Yes, Brees seems to be a good guy. He’s a family man who is the top of his profession and also helped a lot after Katrina. He has a voice and he used it. Millions will agree with his initial assertion. Millions will also not agree with his assertion. They have a voice just like him. I didn’t really see anyone calling him a racist or a bigot. I saw people saying for the most part that it wasn’t the right take. He then corrected himself, which wasn’t PC and seemed genuine. I’m not sure what there is to bitch about in the situation. 

The irony is that he's getting heat because people are disappointed that this is how he really feels. My reaction when I heard him start in about the flag and his grandfathers was "really Drew"? For some reason, I didn't think he was like those people and I was wrong. The apology is whatever but we know how he really feels.

 

I respect the fact that Drew had grandfathers that fought for this country, but many of the people he's accusing of being disrespectful have great-grandfathers that were slaves and fought for not only this country but their own freedom. People like to pretend like slavery wasn't really that long ago and systemic racism went away when the civil rights act was signed.

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47 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

The irony is that he's getting heat because people are disappointed that this is how he really feels. My reaction when I heard him start in about the flag and his grandfathers was "really Drew"? For some reason, I didn't think he was like those people and I was wrong. The apology is whatever but we know how he really feels.

 

I respect the fact that Drew had grandfathers that fought for this country, but many of the people he's accusing of being disrespectful have great-grandfathers that were slaves and fought for not only this country but their own freedom. People like to pretend like slavery wasn't really that long ago and systemic racism went away when the civil rights act was signed.

 

I get it but don't assume everyone who views the flag as a salute to military service is a closet bigot. Its pretty obvious Brees had a point of view many share and when he sat down and listened he realized his take was wrong. Thats exactly what we should be about. Conversation and dialogue that leads to realization and change of opinion. 

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7 hours ago, GOAT9 said:

Black people have not asked for help. Black people blame white people for everything, call them names, and then make demands like they are owed something. That is why there is so much animosity and that is why white people arent going to bother to listen. 

You are stupid.  Do you not know anything about the racist history in America?  Just on that, do you not know it’s human nature to distrust and become angry about being mistreated?  So question, if someone smacks your White ass is the face for 30 days straight, what would your reaction be?  Would you hug them, love them, kiss them, say they are the best in the world, ask for their forgiveness????  Or would you be angry as shit, call them an asshole, blame them for your sore jaw, be distrustful, etc.????  I get it though...racists are incapable of seeing others as even being human.

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Brees didn’t say anything racists.  Social media has become a bully.  My only question though:  is Brees as offended by cops desecrating the flag by wearing black and white flags with a thin blue line on it???  I doubt it...so it’s really not about the fucking flag.

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42 minutes ago, Righteous said:

You are stupid.  Do you not know anything about the racist history in America?  Just on that, do you not know it’s human nature to distrust and become angry about being mistreated?  So question, if someone smacks your White ass is the face for 30 days straight, what would your reaction be?  Would you hug them, love them, kiss them, say they are the best in the world, ask for their forgiveness????  Or would you be angry as shit, call them an asshole, blame them for your sore jaw, be distrustful, etc.????  I get it though...racists are incapable of seeing others as even being human.


Hey OMan, sounds like Touched The Tard doesn’t like the lifelong treatment he has gotten from Mother Nature. 

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2 hours ago, oldschool said:

 

I get it but don't assume everyone who views the flag as a salute to military service is a closet bigot. Its pretty obvious Brees had a point of view many share and when he sat down and listened he realized his take was wrong. Thats exactly what we should be about. Conversation and dialogue that leads to realization and change of opinion. 

And I addressed that in a previous post. I specifically that Brees may not be like those people but fair or not, that "disrespect the flag" rhetoric has become synonymous with people who purposely made the kneeling about the flag in order to deflect from the real conversation black people were trying to have. When he uses that flag and country stuff, he needs to understand how that comes off to a lot of people who are sick and tired of being talked down to about the "right way" to protest often by people who don't plan on listening either way. 

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1 minute ago, GOAT9 said:

Submission, nice.

Only racists like you want submission from those who disagree. Keep in showing your true colors.

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14 hours ago, BudAdams said:

Wrong.  There was absolutely nothing wrong or racist about Brees' original comments that caused this firestorm.  If anyone was offended by it, then they are easily offended and yes he absolutely caved to the PC police for PR.  The fact he's lined up for the NFL Sunday Night gig surely played into the PR decision. 

 

The fact is that plenty of people believe that anything but standing for the national anthem/flag is a sign of disrespect and it's a huge reason why the anthem protests did nothing in 2016/2017.   Is that 100% right or just?  Not at all but that's reality.  Anyone who tries to sell products, services, or lobby for legislation knows damn well that you don't do it by pissing off the people you need support from.  IIRC, blacks constitute 13% of the population so they have no chance to implement change unless the majority of whites and other racial groups buy in. 

 

It took America seeing the Arbery and Floyd videos in a time where it was literally the only thing on the news in Covid-19 coverage coma that worked to get the issue center stage. 

 

Brees clearly isn't racist and plenty of people who agree with him on the anthem/flag issue are also not racist.  The problem is that sheeple like yourself pander to the outrage of the moment and what Brees said is nothing compared to the systematic racism or police brutality issues.  In fact, Brees said in the original interview that he supported the actual issues but disagreed that the anthem protest was an effective form of protest.  He's 100% entitled to that opinion and the fact is that millions of people agree with him.

 

Taking a knee didn't solve a damn thing back then and it won't do a thing if they do it again this fall. 

 

If there was nothing wrong with what he said, then why the problem?  Why the apology?  In his own words, he admitted he was wrong.  You are free to be a hypocrite, but you should expect to get called out on it (or "bullied" if you want to be a baby about it).  If taking a knee doesn't solve anything, do you think any form of protest is valid? 

 

 

13 hours ago, GOAT9 said:

He lowered taxes, re-negotiated trade deals, and grew the economy? What exactly did he lie about in those regards? 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/03/07/the-coal-industry-has-lost-almost-one-thousand-jobs-since-trump-became-president/#2f7cb49c2e29

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-carrier/more-layoffs-at-indiana-factory-trump-made-deal-to-keep-open-idUSKBN1F02TL

 

4 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

This was a really good response from Brees imo

 

drewbrees


Through my ongoing conversations with friends, teammates, and leaders in the black community, I realize this is not an issue about the American flag. It has never been. We can no longer use the flag to turn people away or distract them from the real issues that face our black communities.
We did this back in 2017, and regretfully I brought it back with my comments this week. We must stop talking about the flag and shift our attention to the real issues of systemic racial injustice, economic oppression, police brutality, and judicial & prison reform.
We are at a critical juncture in our nation’s history! If not now, then when?

We as a white community need to listen and learn from the pain and suffering of our black communities. We must acknowledge the problems, identify the solutions, and then put this into action. The black community cannot do it alone. This will require all of us.

 

It's not about the flag or the anthem

This is why these conversations need to happen.  Changing the subject to the military is a purposeful tactic.

 

2 hours ago, oldschool said:

 

I get it but don't assume everyone who views the flag as a salute to military service is a closet bigot. Its pretty obvious Brees had a point of view many share and when he sat down and listened he realized his take was wrong. Thats exactly what we should be about. Conversation and dialogue that leads to realization and change of opinion. 

I thought you said this story was dead?  If there was no point in posting it, then, according to your opinion, there are multiple pages of nothing.  

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3 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

The fact that this is how you choose to view black people tells me everything I need to know about you and how little you actually give a fuck about black people. You resent them and look at them as entitled crybabies that are trying to hurt your feelings. Sadly, I think a lot of white people feel this way and this is precisely why black people's pleas have fallen on deaf ears; you can't even hear them because all you choose to hear is the stuff that allows you to dismiss them off hand as whiners. You have no empathy for them so stop pretending that you do.

The fact that you and others are unwilling to sit down like adults, hear both sides, and actually work on real progress to solve the issues is why there is never going to be consensus and this issue is always going to be a problem. "Black people just want to be heard." Yeah no shit they just want to be heard, but they don't want to hear anyone else. Theres the fucking problem you stupid fuck. 

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6 minutes ago, GOAT9 said:

The fact that you and others are unwilling to sit down like adults, hear both sides, and actually work on real progress to solve the issues is why there is never going to be consensus and this issue is always going to be a problem. "Black people just want to be heard." Yeah no shit they just want to be heard, but they don't want to hear anyone else. Theres the fucking problem you stupid fuck. 

 

Its ironic you don't realize how prejudiced your post is. That line of thinking is exactly what led us to this point.

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2 hours ago, Righteous said:

You are stupid.  Do you not know anything about the racist history in America?  Just on that, do you not know it’s human nature to distrust and become angry about being mistreated?  So question, if someone smacks your White ass is the face for 30 days straight, what would your reaction be?  Would you hug them, love them, kiss them, say they are the best in the world, ask for their forgiveness????  Or would you be angry as shit, call them an asshole, blame them for your sore jaw, be distrustful, etc.????  I get it though...racists are incapable of seeing others as even being human.

Youre calling me stupid? And with a name called righteous to boot. And your analogy is fucking terrible. Do you want to be heard and make change, or do you just want to be angry and cause problems? Because your entire post mentioned nothing about solving problems, it was just a giant excuse to justify acting stupid. 

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1 hour ago, ManningEnvy said:


Hey OMan, sounds like Touched The Tard doesn’t like the lifelong treatment he has gotten from Mother Nature. 

Lol!!  You are a powerless shit message board poster.  Sadly, your only accomplishment in life is being born to White parents.  I know that makes you so proud.  

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1 minute ago, GOAT9 said:

Youre calling me stupid? And with a name called righteous to boot. And your analogy is fucking terrible. Do you want to be heard and make change, or do you just want to be angry and cause problems? Because your entire post mentioned nothing about solving problems, it was just a giant excuse to justify acting stupid. 

You are stupid!  Of course you wouldn’t understand.  If you are too stupid to understand the solution is simple.  Black people don’t need shit from you...all they need is for the rule of law to be applied equally, as it should be.  What fucking conversation is needed for that?

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