Popular Post Number9 Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I think we are entering the second year, really the fourth year of the Titans being a top team in the NFL. In the last three years the Titans have a record of 27-21, with three playoff wins. I remember someone saying it was the era of those great Buffalo Bills teams. At first you think Buffalo? Those Bills team won the AFCCG four years in a row. They dominated the AFC. If they had won two of those SB they would be considered one of the best teams of all time. You don't have to win it all to be a good franchise. Right now, these teams the Patriots, Seahawks, 49ers, Packers, Saints, Ravens, Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Texans and Colts are the better franchises. Those 11 teams will be in the playoffs year after year. All those are really good franchises, with the Texans being the odd bird. They have longevity at HC and QB, the GM are a given. They draft late every year, but they field better teams. The play better because because those franchises bring in players that fit what they are trying to do. We are now one of the better franchises in the NFL. The Titans can walk on the field with any team in the NFL and win. Not "any given Sunday" win, but they can play to the wire with any team in the NFL. As long as JRob and Vrabel are here, this will continue. Going into 2020 we don't have the best roster. There are teams like the 19' Browns who had a ton of talent, but they couldn't even win eight games. Bad organization. The Titans bring in players with potential to develop into very good players in their system. Those top 11 franchises also have a real good QB. We now have Tannehill. Tannehill is maybe the sixth or seventh best QB of the teams above. We have some areas of need, but they will fit Fulton in and he'll play well enough not to be a big liability. They have a plan for adding more talent to the DL, either Clowney or a player we haven't considered. They can win with who we have even without one more guy. We have to see how Vrabel does running the D, but Vrab's a very talented guy. He's in control of the games now, instead of reacting. Jon Robinson. He is evaluating the roster right now. He looking at all the Titans players strengths and weaknesses. He looking at all the players in and out of the league for players who could improve the roster. When a player has to ride the stretcher, JRob is dialing phone numbers before they can get him off the field. The talent and mindset of these Titans are maybe the best across the board they have had since coming to TN. The first Titans had more talent and they were better football players. The problem was they cost too much and the cap got them. I don't see the cap getting this team. One flaw. Backup QB. The Titans are now a winning organization. Top ten teams go to the playoffs annually. The Bills are rising. The Rams are a little shakey. Chicago. Dud. The Texans stay on the list until they aren't, but it's looking like they have a weakness where the Titans are the strongest. Player-Coach relationship. Super Bowl Victory!! We will have a shot every postseason going forward. prometheus, SuperFreak90, FRT, and 6 others 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pat Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Tannehill is better than you think. I'd put Wilson and Mahomes ahead. Rodgers and Brees maybe but they are on the decline. Titans have an elite QB, play defense, and run the ball. That's definitely a SB formula. AvgJoe, SuperFreak90, OILERMAN, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I believe the Titans are one of the best run teams in the league. The problem in the NFL is there are so many moving parts it's hard to really judge how well a team is run by results. It's really not an accurate way to judge. Injuries, bad luck bounces and bad calls can change fortunes. Even an easy or hard schedule can halter the path. Last year the Titans were 2-4, people were calling for Vrabel to be fired, he was questioned for his moves weekly, Saffold was a bust etc..... Tannehill enters, boom. Belichick has a losing record without Brady but he was still a genius. You can also look at teams that have a great QB but are still run poorly. I believe the Packers totally squandered Rodgers prime years even with the SB win, The Saints to a lesser degree wasted a lot of Brees prime. Seattle looks to be doing the same thing with Wilson since their SB win. Robinson totally gets it. He knows what he's doing regardless of what the results are StephenIsLegend, Justafan, freakingeek, and 7 others 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nine Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 It's probably safe to say we've all enjoyed the JRob era far more than we enjoyed the Ruston Webster or Mike Reinfeldt years. But here's the thing: go win a division title. Then we'll talk. NFLStudent, pamo9, TitanTez, and 7 others 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, nine said: But here's the thing: go win a division title. Then we'll talk. I think making the AFC title game is better than winning the division. Now they need to get home playoff games to increase their odds of making the SB but winning the division itself isn't that big a deal to me, aside from getting homefield Makaveli, Somedude, Omar, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 There's definitely another step or rung on the ladder that they need to take in order to be perennially good. They went head to head with some really good teams at the end of the year but now teams have an offseason to adjust to what the Titans did with Tannehill last year. If they can repeat enough to get past the first round in the playoffs then I think it's time to have this conversation but I see a huge potential for the Titans to take a big step back this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTitan Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Would disagree that the Colts are a better franchise. All of their success since 1998 have been tied to having a generational franchise QB x 2. They have had no success when those two weren’t under center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I think making the AFC title game is better than winning the division. Now they need to get home playoff games to increase their odds of making the SB but winning the division itself isn't that big a deal to me, aside from getting homefield Well, yeah.....of course the AFCG is a much bigger deal than winning the division. I'm as optimistic as anyone about the team's current situation, and they absolutely appear to be one of the better-run organizations in the league in recent years. But the fact is, the Titans haven't won a division title since 2008. You can't spend a decade being a second-class citizen in your own division and expect to be recognized as a top 5-10 team in the league. TitanTez 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, patsplat said: Tannehill is better than you think. I'd put Wilson and Mahomes ahead. Rodgers and Brees maybe but they are on the decline. Titans have an elite QB, play defense, and run the ball. That's definitely a SB formula. I'm as big a Tannehill fan as anyone but come on now. He was probably a top 5 QB in 2019 but that's 10 games. You can't put him above Watson and certainly not Brees. If we're talking 2019 Jackson was also better but I would take Tanny going forward. I would say Tannehill is probably on the level of Stafford and maybe Rodgers at this point. I'd have him probably top 10 just ahead of guys like Cousins and Wentz TNTitans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: I'm as big a Tannehill fan as anyone but come on now. He was probably a top 5 QB in 2019 but that's 10 games. You can't put him above Watson and certainly not Brees. If we're talking 2019 Jackson was also better but I would take Tanny going forward. I would say Tannehill is probably on the level of Stafford and maybe Rodgers at this point. I'd have him probably top 10 just ahead of guys like Cousins and Wentz Hey Touched The Tard, how's it hanging this fine morning? The Titans are getting better huh? Yeah, never heard that one before. Too bad it can't be said for everything in the world. Looking at this, not much that can be said for aging gracefully.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Hey Touched The Tard, words of wisdom concerning the ladies from ME. First, learn how to play bass. Second, cut the head, arms and legs off your dog suit. Third, you'll need a guitar that's shaped like a club. Can you say caveman power trio? Just might drive the women crazy or at least you might get a peek of one of the other band members nailing a chick over the urinal in the bar bathroom. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Justafan said: huge potential for the Titans to take a big step back this year. I see and hear this quite a bit, especially from the national talking heads, without a lot of explanation behind it. I'm assuming people are thinking what we saw from Tanne last year was a mirage and DH won't be able to have the success he did again. What people aren't taking into consideration is exactly what this thread is about. A good organization with the likes of Jrob and the football smarts of MV don't usually take big steps backward. You don't beat the likes of NE and Baltimore in the playoffs the way they did last year with smoke and mirrors. It didn't become Jrob's and MV's team completely until they rid themselves of the lead weight of MM and look what happened after that. The team is in an enviable position going forward that we haven't seen the likes of around here in a long time. To win a SB, you have to have what we have now and then throw in a sprinkle of luck here and there, which mainly means staying healthy. OILERMAN, and Number9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I think there's a certain fear to say your team is one of the best after you have been down like we have. We watch teams get built all up in the media and complain why they never build up the Titans. It's because they have seen too many years instability in the franchise. The Titans five first round picks before JRob got here were Jake Locker #10, Chance Warmack #10, Kendal Wright #20, Taylor Lewan #11 and Marcus Mariota #2. Only one of these players is even still on the team and the #2 pick is playing backup elsewhere. The other three first round picks are no longer playing NFL football. The media was around when we made all these ridiculous ass picks, that's why they paid us no attention. In the draft, you have to expect first and second round picks to contribute. Look at our last two years first and second round picks, Evans, Landry, Simmons and Brown. That's just two seasons. We had a crippling part at the most important piece of a football team, QB. Now we have a legit NFL starter. The difference is when a player comes now, all he has to do is his part. Nobody is expected to carry the team. Tannehill came to a team that could give him support on both sides of the football. Our problem will be keeping the team together, but only certain parts are irreplaceable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 hours ago, nine said: Well, yeah.....of course the AFCG is a much bigger deal than winning the division. I'm as optimistic as anyone about the team's current situation, and they absolutely appear to be one of the better-run organizations in the league in recent years. But the fact is, the Titans haven't won a division title since 2008. You can't spend a decade being a second-class citizen in your own division and expect to be recognized as a top 5-10 team in the league. 14 minutes ago, TitanTez said: Exactly, It's the automatic bid into the playoff that makes you a serious contender and being able to win the division consistently makes you a powerhouse. You can't be a top team, hoping every year that the Texans lay down the last game, so you can get in the dance. The AFC South is one of the tougher divisions in the NFL. It's true the Titans need to win the division, that's why I say this era of Titans football. Four years ago we turned the TV on to see how we were going to lose. We have been winning for three years now. We finally added the key piece to competing in the South and the NFL. We can put up points and we have a capable defense. It won't be easy because the Colts are one of the teams on the perennial contenders list. They have prob the best line in football and they added Rivers. I don't think he is what he was, but he's better than Brissett. The Colts also improved their offense and defense. Houston has a scrappy playmaker at QB who will still be hitting targets downfield. We need the Jags to remain our bitch. The difference now is the Titans will be the actual favorite in most of our AFC South games. Three @TN and One@Jax. We still have to win the games, but we don't have to go 6-0 in the South to be one of the best teams in the league. We just have to come out every week and beat the all the bad teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 There's plenty of reasons to be bullish about this regime and at least the short term future where the core is intact. Robinson and Vrabel have a clear vision on what type of team they want it's a proven formula for winning. It's also completely valid to point out that the Titans have yet to win more than 9 games in a season since 2008 and have not coincidentally won the division since then. As great as the run was to make the AFCC, it's pretty difficult to win 3 straight road games to make the SB. By the KC game, they wore down and the critical failures that put the game in the hands of KC were things that they generally had done well. For 2020, this team as constructed should win the AFC South and be in contention for a SB. If not, it's disappointing but I do think most underrate the element of luck and breaks that contribute to winning it all. It's really hard even with an excellent front office and coaches. It makes what NE did for nearly 20 years amazing in perspective. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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