Starkiller Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: There's no guarantee it would take 2 1st round picks. I mean, that was the gist I got from a reply from @Jonboy a couple days ago at least. that’s the rules, so yes it’s a guarantee. If you sign a non-exclusive franchise player to a contract offer and the original team doesn’t match, they get 2 1st round picks from you. Edited March 24, 2020 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Starkiller said: that’s the rules, so yes it’s a guarantee. If you sign a non-exclusive franchise player to a contract offer and the original team doesn’t match, they get 2 1st round picks from you. That is correct. However most of the recent moves for franchise tagged players is via trades which doesn't carry the same designated compensation, No one is signing Chris Jones and handing over 2 first round picks though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Starkiller said: that’s the rules, so yes it’s a guarantee. If you sign a non-exclusive franchise player to a contract offer and the original team doesn’t match, they get 2 1st round picks from you. Not sure the context of the discussion, but saw NN tagged me. Teams never get the 2 first round picks. If they want to trade them, they can trade a player for less than the 2 first round picks. More here: On 3/19/2020 at 12:50 AM, Jonboy said: Sorry, of course I was referring to the quote you posted. This article explains what I was trying to say: Why would a team tag and then trade a player, rather than tag him and wait to get two first-round picks? Because NFL teams almost never acquire players via franchise-tag offer sheets. In fact, it has happened only once. In 1998, the Panthers gave up two first-round picks to sign Redskins nose tackle Sean Gilbert to a seven-year, $46.5 million contract. It's better to get something (via a tag and trade) than nothing (via an unsigned franchise player who holds out). In this case, the tag becomes a tool for trade leverage. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28788235/2020-nfl-franchise-transition-tags-primer-candidates-everything-need-know 2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: That is correct. However most of the recent moves for franchise tagged players is via trades which doesn't carry the same designated compensation, No one is signing Chris Jones and handing over 2 first round picks though. It's not even just the recent ones. According to that ESPN link above, only once - ever - has a team gotten 2 first round picks on a franchise tagged player. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: That is correct. However most of the recent moves for franchise tagged players is via trades which doesn't carry the same designated compensation, No one is signing Chris Jones and handing over 2 first round picks though. Right, but like I said, they won’t be trading him to a likely AFC rival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Starkiller said: Right, but like I said, they won’t be trading him to a likely AFC rival The Chiefs are going all out to win another SB before they have to pay Mahomes $40+ million a season, they aren't trading away Jones ahead of this upcoming season. Supdawg, tgo, and Lars 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Starkiller said: that’s the rules, so yes it’s a guarantee. If you sign a non-exclusive franchise player to a contract offer and the original team doesn’t match, they get 2 1st round picks from you. I defer to Jonboy's post above. I mean, you're right that it's the rules that they get 2 1sts, but they don't have to take 2 1sts, especially if they're leaning more toward trading him than not. Having said that, Aussie is probably also right above that they don't want to trade him so they probably would demand 2 1sts... which means, either way, that JRob isn't likely going to go that route. I digress... back to Clowney Watch. Edited March 24, 2020 by NashvilleNinja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Chiefs are focused on keeping Jones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Of course they are but their CAP situation is real. Now it might take two 1st round picks for them to make a move. They really need to dump someone like Watkins. They have negative CAP space right now. I was under the impression that Watkins was going to be dealt or released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC104 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Soxcat said: He might bring a 7th round pick like Casey did but not many teams want to pay that salary. He’s going to bring more than that. He’s only 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Even the fake insiders are starting to run out of material? OILERMAN, tgo, and Ricky 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Finally a legit update. FYI in advance...the Titans aren’t mentioned. Basically, per Schefter, he wants too much and won’t be signed until he drops his asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 So assuming the Titans don’t sign Clowney - what’s the plan for actually improving the team over last year? KB31 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tgo said: So assuming the Titans don’t sign Clowney - what’s the plan for actually improving the team over last year? Sign a new DL and draft well. Clowney can just wait until after the draft. See who is getting a little more desperate. Edited March 25, 2020 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post headhunter Posted March 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, tgo said: So assuming the Titans don’t sign Clowney - what’s the plan for actually improving the team over last year? Have Tannehill start the first game SleepingTitan, ChemEngr79, Callidus, and 11 others 7 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, tgo said: So assuming the Titans don’t sign Clowney - what’s the plan for actually improving the team over last year? Trade Casey for a depth player who will never see the field and will be off the roster in a year heyitsmeallen, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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