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17 minutes ago, 'Nator said:

Bernie's entire movement was a myth! 


Points noted, but this is an unfair assessment. Bernie moved the needle on what was considered the realm of possibility for progressive initiatives.  His grassroots fundraising was unprecedented and indicative of the populace pushing back against established parties, imo. To say it’s all crap is a bit much — he’s the second guy standing.

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This is the damndest thing....  Trump supporters making fun of Biden's mental status.    Seriously.  

MERS killed 866 people worldwide. Again, basic math.   Btw, in an entire year, the flu kills 3,500 - 15,500 in the US. They suspect some cases aren't identified and so they estimate up to 61

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3 minutes ago, WG53 said:

That's the problem. None of the current group can. They're all too moderate and the electorate is too stupid to vote in their own interest. The average voter is too stupid to do any research on candidates and will believe whatever their chosen media tells them. They fall for sound bites and can't understand context.

 

There are several candidates out there that are better than Joe and have much better ideas. Ideas that people support when you explain them but not with the name's they have attached to them.

Guy, it’s not the candidate.  It’s the party.  

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3 minutes ago, begooode said:


Points noted, but this is an unfair assessment. Bernie moved the needle on what was considered the realm of possibility for progressive initiatives.  His grassroots fundraising was unprecedented and indicative of the populace pushing back against established parties, imo. To say it’s all crap is a bit much — he’s the second guy standing.

 

Fair.

 

But in my opinion, if he had run against a non-Hillary, none of that would have happened. 

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Trump’s worldview: me myself and I,... and the bad guys

 

President Trump on Wednesday accused the media of pushing to keep restrictions in place to limit the spread of the coronavirus — measures supported by most public health experts — in an effort to hamper the economy and harm his reelection chances.
 

"The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success," Trump tweeted without citing specific outlets or evidence. "The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!"

 

The tweet marks yet another escalation in Trump's bid to reframe the discussion about when to ease social distancing guidelines that have led to the closure of businesses across the country.

 

The president's tweet also underscores the degree to which the November general election may factor into his decisionmaking. Trump has tied his campaign closely to the strength of the economy, which has cratered as companies lay off workers and the stock market plunges because of the virus. Media companies have been among those that have cut pay or laid off workers.

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17 minutes ago, WVTITAN said:

Guy, it’s not the candidate.  It’s the party.  

Partly, yes. US politics as a whole has shifted far right.

 

People that used to be moderates are now labeled far left. The current moderates are holding positions that used to be considered right wing.

 

We have almost no true liberals and that is fucking us all over.

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20 minutes ago, WG53 said:

Partly, yes. US politics as a whole has shifted far right.

 

People that used to be moderates are now labeled far left. The current moderates are holding positions that used to be considered right wing.

 

We have almost no true liberals and that is fucking us all over.

partly? In American politics it is accept the party platform and vote or don’t vote.

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40 minutes ago, WG53 said:

Partly, yes. US politics as a whole has shifted far right.

 

People that used to be moderates are now labeled far left. The current moderates are holding positions that used to be considered right wing.

 

We have almost no true liberals and that is fucking us all over.

 

This can't be right because according to one certain poster most of us here are libtards!

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50 minutes ago, WVTITAN said:

partly? In American politics it is accept the party platform and vote or don’t vote.

Yes, partly. 

 

They didn't set this system up. They just prop it up to maintain power.

 

Yes, the founding fathers are not infallible.

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