No1TitansFan Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, rns90 said: Yeah, Ginsberg has to stay alive until Biden gets inagurated. I'm worried that they're going to get one or two of the older conservatives to retire if they lose the election and then railroad a younger replacement through post election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Jamalisms said: I don't know a whole lot of people who have admitted voting for Trump who now say they won't this time. I'll believe that his reelection odds are low when he loses. I do but the real issue is the low turnout, especially among minorities in 2016. Trump won by the slimmest of margins and the Dems have outperformed in just about every elections since then. People are turning out this year, likely in record setting numbers He's obv not losing his 40% base no matter what he does or says but they can't win him the election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: I do but the real issue is the low turnout, especially among minorities in 2016. Trump won by the slimmest of margins and the Dems have outperformed in just about every elections since then. People are turning out this year, likely in record setting numbers He's obv not losing his 40% base no matter what he does or says but they can't win him the election. I'm on record saying Trump was toast the second Biden won super Tuesday and became the presumptive nominee. The pandemic response, economic collapse, and now the Civil unrest have all but doomed him. His aides know it too which means they are going to get even more radical as the year wears on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I do but the real issue is the low turnout, especially among minorities in 2016. Trump won by the slimmest of margins and the Dems have outperformed in just about every elections since then. People are turning out this year, likely in record setting numbers He's obv not losing his 40% base no matter what he does or says but they can't win him the election. He's losing a small part of his previous voters, which he can't stand. He's also losing by a big margin voters who don't like either candidate. That's an indicator that he'll lose the few remaining undecided. Justafan, OILERMAN, and luvyablue256 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, oldschool said: I'm on record saying Trump was toast the second Biden won super Tuesday and became the presumptive nominee. The pandemic response, economic collapse, and now the Civil unrest have all but doomed him. His aides know it too which means they are going to get even more radical as the year wears on. It has nothing to do with Biden Justafan, and luvyablue256 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ctm said: He's losing a small part of his previous voters, which he can't stand. He's also losing by a big margin voters who don't like either candidate. That's an indicator that he'll lose the few remaining undecided. also older voters 65+ Justafan, and 'Nator 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: It has nothing to do with Biden Bernie couldn't beat him. The "He's a socialist communist socialist, he's gonna make us a socialist country" bullshit really does work on people. luvyablue256, Justafan, and reo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, 'Nator said: Bernie couldn't beat him. The "He's a socialist communist socialist, he's gonna make us a socialist country" bullshit really does work on people. Sanders would probably win under these circumstances. Oman is at flat out wrong about it not being about Biden 4 months ago though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, oldschool said: Sanders would probably win under these circumstances. Oman is at flat out wrong about it not being about Biden 4 months ago though. Nah. All those old people who are going Biden in the polls right now shit their pants at "socialist country". Bernie cant win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 I don’t think there’s any doubt that the state of the country currently is lowering Trumps chances. There will be a ton of votes that are not really for Biden, but simply against Trump. It’s always change that is desired when there are major issues going on in an election year. This year is obviously highlighted with issues. It’s still gonna be a lot closer than a lot of people think, but even without the “unpresidentialness” of Trump, he still loses this election in this year. He’ll get very few undecided and swing votes. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 Trump was losing to the top 4 or 5 candidates before he embarrassed himself with the virus As for socialism, good luck with that, socialism is everywhere right now, this would have helped Bernie. Biden is a horrible candidate in any other scenario WG53, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 'Nator Posted May 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Trump was losing to the top 4 or 5 candidates before he embarrassed himself with the virus As for socialism, good luck with that, socialism is everywhere right now, this would have helped Bernie. Biden is a horrible candidate in any other scenario People are retards. They want socialist programs if you poll them on the individual issues but they also shit their pants over "socialist" candidates. Starkiller, pat, begooode, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, 'Nator said: People are retards. They want socialist programs if you poll them on the individual issues but they also shit their pants over "socialist" candidates. Bridge too far concept for the mainstream electorate; something the people on the farther left just can't or refuse to accept. DNC basically let the Bernie folks in on every aspect of setting up the rules for this years nominating process and he ended up pulling a lower percentage of voters than last time despite having a huge head start and a ton of moderates candidates even with those voters supporting lots of his policies. They still keep insisting it was some sinister plot of the DNC that successfully sabotaged their candidate despite zero evidence supporting it. 'Nator 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 hours ago, 'Nator said: People are retards. They want socialist programs if you poll them on the individual issues but they also shit their pants over "socialist" candidates. Any other election I'd agree. Biden never won a state the other 15 times he ran in the primary either. He wouldn't win a general against anyone other Trump. The dude is almost 80.... The two candidates are Trump and Not Trump. Not Trump is going to win unless Biden fucks it up ChemEngr79, begooode, and Eighteen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 The only way Biden does not fuck up is if he claims he has covid and remains in quarantine until after the election. He is flat out stupid and demented and incoherent.... rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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